<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472</id><updated>2012-02-05T10:14:15.377-08:00</updated><title type='text'>kashmirtalks</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>15</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-2220640226639777393</id><published>2009-07-15T03:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-25T04:04:40.604-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Justice murdered: Jan Commission way</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;What a mockery they have made of it. A cruel joke played with all Kashmiris in general and victims in particular, writes &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#330099;"&gt;Zulfikar Majid.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;color:#330099;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;Finally the report of one-man enquiry commission of Justice Muzzafar Jan (Retd) probing rape and murder of two girls of Shopian is out. It took the commission almost one and a half month to complete the probe. But after such a hectic exercise the questions regarding the death of two innocent girls remains unanswered. Instead of reaching the conclusion and identifying the culprits of the heinous crime, the Commission has tried to find scapegoats. Somewhere they have defamed the victims and somewhere they have questioned the character and background of the victims’ relatives. It seems that whole exercise is to save the culprits, Justice Jan has tried everything to create the confusion. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;Isn’t it ridiculous to discuss caste of the two girls who were raped and then mercilessly killed? What is Justice Jan trying to prove by saying that victim Nelofar Jan and Roomi Jan (sister of other victims Asiya Jan) were frequently visiting their orchard where Nelofar might have developed some relation with someone else. Is visiting one’s orchard a crime? Assumptions and presumptions of the commission have not only hurt the sentiments of the victims’ relatives, but whole Kashmir is infuriated by such allegations. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;To hide its incompetence, the investigating agency has leveled wild allegations against the victims and their families. It was a simple case of gang rape and murder and it didn’t need any mysterious method to establish it. What people of Shopian have been saying from day one, Jan Commission has come up with it after a hectic exercise spanned over a more period of more than one month? People said that it wasn’t a case of drowning, and active role of some police officials in the occurrence of crime can’t be ruled out.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;The allegations against the brother of Nelofar, Syed Zeerak Shah, according to commission report, is that he slapped a doctor who was conducting post mortem and instigated the public to protest against the crime. What do you expect from a brother whose sister has been gang raped and then brutally murdered? No brother on this earth can remain cool and calm after such an outrageous assault on the modesty of his sister. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;For slapping a doctor and protesting against the government, Justice Jan has recommended that sustained questioning/interrogation of Zeerak Shah be carried out so as “to work out the possibility of his involvement in the rape and murder of Nelofar and Asiya.” Similarly, about Asiya’s brother and Nelofar’s husband, Shakeel Ahmad Ahnager, the commission has recommended an in-depth investigation to “work out the possibility of his and his friends’ involvement in the crime.” His fault is that he has a Maruti car and maintains a good living standard. This is the height of things. At the least, this whole report is ridiculous and absurd. Does Justice Jan expect us to believe that a brother would get his sister raped? It can’t be thought of. Didn’t Justice Jan think twice before scripting such outrageous statements in his diary? The commission has trivialized the grave and serious issue. The way the commission has questioned the modesty of the victims is more outrageous than there rape.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;The Jan Commission has also poked its nose in the working of media for which it had no mandate. It has recommended firm guidelines to ensure that the authenticity of the news be verified and only after proper satisfaction of the guidelines of the news, it be published. The local media by and large reported in a professional manner throughout these weeks and they don’t need any lessons on that from Justice Jan. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;The tragedy and its initial handling had already put the credibility of the government at stake. Police refused to register an FIR against the rape and murder. It flared up the whole valley and relentless protests were held. Two people lost lives in the protests while dozens others were injured after which police finally registered the FIR. Initially the chief minister, Omar Abdullah, was mislead that it was a drowning case and he even stated it before the mediamen in a press conference on June 1. In the same press conference, Omar said that Commission has been setup to probe the incident and within a month it would come up with the facts. Where are the facts and who has been arrested? People had little hope with the commission as Justice Jan is known for his political proclivities to a particular political party. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;When people were demanding probe by a sitting judge of a High Court, government excused itself that it was time consuming to seek permission from Supreme Court for such a probe. He had stated that facts would be before the people within a month. What happened to Omar’s promise?There are some questions, which need answers from both the commission and the government. Who destroys evidences after the occurrence of the crime? Even in a normal crime, police registers FIR without any delay. What is Justice Jan trying to establish when he says that it seems that the investigating agency i.e. SI, SHO, Dy SP and SP are unaware of the mandatory provisions of section 174 CRPC, Rule 580 of Police Manual, Rule 614 of Police Rules and 157 (b) CRPC. It seems Justice Jan has left no stone unturned to cover up the issue. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;The way Justice Jan Commission has investigated the outrageous tragedy of rape and murder of two women in Shopian and has absolved the security agencies of suspicion, has trivialized the collective honor of the Kashmiri nation and the modesty of womenfolk in general. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;The whole Kashmir was aghast over this very shameful and outrageous incident justifiably enraging the people. Had this tragedy struck elsewhere, the whole world would have rallied behind the victims, seeking punishment to culprits. Mukhtartan Mai’s case became a hot new across the globe because the incident had happened in Pakistan and not elsewhere.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;Over the past two decades, number of commissions have been setup in Kashmir to probe the human rights violations. But a minuscule few had come up with the facts. It has dented the credibility of the institutions. Government should keep in mind that not less than Prime Minster of India has intervened in Shopian incident and assured that culprits would be brought to the book, irrespective of their position. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"&gt;The case is already being monitored by the High Court and Special Investigation Team of Police is also probing it. It is high time that all the police officials whose names have figured in destruction of evidence be arrested and interrogated thoroughly. Prime Minister and Chief Minister should come up with a clear statement on the issue. And if local agencies aren’t able to crack the case, let it be handed over to premier investigating agency CBI, which have requisite expertise to investigate such cases. Jan Commission either lacked the competence to solve the case, or had ulterior motives.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-2220640226639777393?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/2220640226639777393/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=2220640226639777393' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/2220640226639777393'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/2220640226639777393'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2009/07/justice-murdered-jan-commission-way.html' title='Justice murdered: Jan Commission way'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-495857643196292565</id><published>2009-07-07T04:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-25T04:18:54.472-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Not as black as painted</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:180%;"&gt;Journalists are not ‘angels’ from heaven. You can’t ignore the good work they have done in harsh conditions and label them whatever you want, writes &lt;span style="color:#330099;"&gt;Zulfikar Majid&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; “Sentiment doesn’t belong to any particular individual, group or banner, but it belongs to whole Kashmiri nation. It has no exclusive copyright.” These were the words of Kashmir’s prominent columnist, Aijaz-ul-Haq in a seminar tilted “Kashmir - A Way Forward” organized by Greater Kashmir Foundation. Well said Mr Haq. Kashmir needs realistic people like you who can show the way to the suffering nation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately, over the years an environment of mistrust has been created here, where labelling others as traitors, agents, assignment holders and so on have become a routine. Initially, labelling was limited to militants and militancy itself, but now it has left almost no person and no profession untouched.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a recent write up in Greater Kashmir, one of the prominent columnists of the Valley had left no stone unturned to demean journalists and journalism in Kashmir. Agreed Indian TV channels remain indifferent towards the sufferings of Kashmiris at the hands of troops. But that doesn’t give you authority to tarnish the image of whole community. I don’t agree with your viewpoint that journalists of the Valley have been coerced to submission. Then who are the people who have been reporting relentlessly for the past 20-years highlighting the atrocities committed by Indian troops on Kashmiris? Kashmiri nation should be proud of many journalists who despite pulls and pressures never compromised with ethics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nearly a dozen journalists have lost their lives while performing their professional duties in the last two decades of turmoil, while many more have been tortured, jailed and humiliated by the police and troops. Calling them incompetent, roadside vendors and motor mechanics is immaturity on part of the writer. Journalists put their lives at risk to give due coverage to the events when police and troops unleash reign of terror on people. Last hope in the hour of crisis for most of the people is to call journalists and narrate their sufferings to them. Recently when a women’s protest rally was being held in Lal Chowk, a police officer passed an indecent remark on them. A photojournalist who was covering the event couldn’t tolerate it and dared to ask the officer to mend his ways. He had to pay a price for it, as the policemen beat up him to pulp. There are hundreds of such examples where journalists have put their lives at risk while caring for the honor and dignity of their nation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Agreed, journalists too might have committed mistakes at times, but they aren’t angels from heaven. They are humans and to err is human. You can’t ignore the good work they have done in harsh conditions. For God’s sake don’t doubt on the integrity of every Kashmiri. Everybody has an opinion. You may agree or disagree with others viewpoint, but that doesn’t give you authority to label everybody. Hartal is a tool of resistance, but it’s over use is a self-destruction.&lt;br /&gt;The author in the recent GK Foundation seminar in his forceful speech quoted Mahtama Gandhi’s Non-Cooperation Movement. The movement was to be nonviolent and to consist of the resignations of titles, the boycott of government educational institutions, the courts, government service, foreign goods, and elections and the eventual refusal to pay taxes. But somewhere we need to do self-introspection. When vice-president, Hamid Ansari was scheduled to attend Kashmir University’s convocation function on June 20, separatists had called for a complete strike. Whole Kashmir observed a strike that day, but there was overwhelming response to the convocation function in KU. Nobody dared to talk about Shopian rape and murder incident before the vice-president. Nobody raised a voice against the human rights violations. Hardly anybody boycotted the function.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those who forcefully advocate for strikes were part and parcel of the function. Why didn’t author dare to write about such episodes? Isn’t their need to prepare the nation for Non-Cooperation movements, before calling for a strike? Whose role it is? Who should take the lead?  If someone dares to talk about such things, you label him and try to shut his mouth.&lt;br /&gt;He calls journalists as assignment holders of status quo, who according to him, resort to proxy writings to malign the resistance and genuine leadership through their write ups against stone pelting, hartals and every other mode of resistance. Another prominent writer in his recent write up ‘in defence of hartals’ had lashed out at those, who had dared to write against hartals and making veteran pro-freedom leader, Syed Ali Shah Geelani, in person a target of this issue. He had also quoted last year’s example when Coordination Committee headed by Geelani had given “breathing space” to the people from long spell of hartals which later on became topic of discussion. Why are we people so afraid of debating and discussing vital issues pertaining to the nation? Geelani is a symbol of resistance. Nobody abuses him or screams at him. But, if at times his policies or politics isn’t suited to the nation, everybody has a right to criticize him. I don’t understand why some intellectuals are behaving like intolerant people? Geelani is a matured and seasoned leader and he should take criticism in positive perspective.&lt;br /&gt;You call people who are with National Conference, Peoples Democratic Party, Congress and other mainstream political parties as ‘traitors’. Then you don’t also like people like Sajjad Gani Lone who contested elections. Moderate separatists are also under you scanner. Gujjars, Bakerwals and Paharis have no stakes in freedom movement. Then same applies to nearly one-lakh families of policemen. More than 60 percent people who voted in last year’s Assembly elections, according to your logic, are also anti-movement. Then what remains left for whom you are seeking Azadi? Don’t divide Kashmiris in the name of party, region and allegiance to a particular ideology. Freedom movement is as dare to every Kashmiri as it is to you. One-lakh people who offered their lives for the cherished goal weren’t from a particular ideology. They belonged to every party, ideology and region.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-495857643196292565?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/495857643196292565/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=495857643196292565' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/495857643196292565'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/495857643196292565'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2009/07/not-as-black-as-painted.html' title='Not as black as painted'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-2054209119130463530</id><published>2009-06-09T04:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-24T04:49:26.430-07:00</updated><title type='text'>KASHMIR – THE LAND OF HARTALS</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;Hartal yesterday, Hartal today, Hartal tomorrow&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;We are complicating the problem for ourselves. A weak nation goes weaker as there are no days to work in. It’s paramount duty of separatists to devise a new way to protest. This one has damaged a lot, comments Zulfikar Majid.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the recent rape and murder of two innocent girls in Shopian (south Kashmir) has sent shock waves across the Valley and beyond, subsequent strikes called by separatists against the incident have multiplied the woes of the already suffering Kashmiris. The Shopian incident is so grave that no sane person can close his eyes. It happened with innocent Aasiya and Nelofar today, it can happen with anybody tomorrow. But can we save honor and dignity of our women by calling strikes? Or we need to do something beyond strikes. Is strike only weapon with us? Whom we are punishing by calling strikes on every small and big issue? Incidentally there is no evidence of strikes in Muslim history. Neither is there any significant correlation between strikes and successful liberation movements across the world. Striking work emerged mainly as a communist concept where the daily waged worker wants to inflict economic costs on the capitalist owners.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; But whom we are punishing here and how does India get affected if we boycott economic activity and work. Indian state must be feeling elated when Kashmiri children do not go to school, the sick can’t go to doctor, the daily waged lose their daily wages. I don’t subscribe Hurriyat Conference (G) chairman, Syed Ali Shah Geelani’s theory that a nation which aspires for independence has to give some sacrifices like strikes. History is witness that no country or nation has achieved freedom by abstaining from the work. I ask Geelani Sahib what a person, who earns his livelihood on daily basis and has to feed his family, will do when you call strikes for weeks together. The families of street vendors and daily wagers might be starving during strike days. Is anybody bothered about those poor souls? How hapless patients feel when they aren’t able to visit a doctor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isn’t Geelani punishing the victims (read Kashmiris) who are already at the receiving end of Indian establishment? The unending era of strikes started right from 1990 when armed insurgency broke in Kashmir. From an arrest of a militant commander to the killing of civilians, everything was followed by days or at times weeks of strikes. This crippled the economy of Kashmir. Students of that generation were the worst sufferers as their studies got severely affected by the strikes. Separatists groups never gave rethink or debated the hartal strategy. Infact, at times different separatists groups to show their presence call unnecessary strikes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hundreds of days of work has been lost in the past two decades due to the strikes. If we could have achieved freedom by continuously abstaining from work for a year, still it wouldn’t have been a bad bargain. But I want to ask Geelani Sahib and other separatist leaders would India leave Kashmir, because of strikes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No nation can achieve freedom when it is feeble and strikes makes Kashmiri nation even feebler. Our students had started to compete at national and international level from the past few years. Starting from last years Amarnath land row agitation till this time, there was complete or partial strike almost 50 percent of the days. Nations aspiring freedom have to be economically self-reliant. By calling unnecessary strikes our economic dependence on India increases every day. These illogical strike calls would scuttle any move by Kashmiris to achieve economic self-reliance. Not only on local issues, at times strikes are enforced on Kashmiris on death anniversary of any leader of Muslim world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nobody can deny that troops commit human rights violations in Kashmir. An alternative strategy needs to be evolved to protest and counter the HR violations. If we would provide conducive atmosphere to our students for studies, they would thrive at national and international level where they can project the plight of Kashmiris at bigger forums. This is the age of Internet and modern means of communications can be used to protest the HR violations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When last year whole Kashmir was under siege and media was gagged, Kashmiri students outside the state used youtube to highlight the HR violations.Blackout in the night, pen down strikes in offices for an hour and other ways can be devised to protest against the atrocities committed by the troops. Students, lawyers, doctors wearing black badges during work is a better way to protest and can be sustained for long.Strikes have never been able to attract international attention towards Kashmir. How many times due to strikes international human rights organizations have taken cognizance of any HR violation and pressurized New Delhi to be cautious? Strikes remain localized to a few localities of Srinagar and other towns. They miserably fail to achieve their objective which is to internationalize HR violations in Kashmir.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If one tries to introspect what went wrong with last year’s uprising when lakhs of people were on streets demanding freedom, frequent strikes was one of the main reason for its failure. People were fatigued which was even acknowledged by Geelani Sahib himself when on October 6, 2008 strike call was taken back. Geelani that time agreed that children have to go to schools, farmers have to reap the harvest and marriages had to be solemnized. From November 2008 to March or April 2009, it seemed separatist leadership was in deep slumber. They were in shock and awe after massive participation of people in the Assembly elections immediately after massive uprising against Indian state. Massive participation of people in Assembly elections wasn’t vote in favour of India, but anger against wrong policies of separatists. Kashmiris are politically mature enough now and they can’t be fed with hollow slogans. Beware Geelani Sahib, calling a press conference and announcing strikes won’t be acceptable to the people for long now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Leadership in Kashmir is in desperate need of strategy. Hartals, protests, sacrifices are means to an end. They cannot be an end in themselves. We need a mission statement, a clear demarcation of short term, medium term and long-term objectives. One hartal or two hartals in a year, is understandable. If we don’t allow our children to go to the schools, where will be the human resources to make it a great nation which we dream of?  It is a self-inflicted wound, which desperately needs a re-think.&lt;br /&gt;(Zulfikar Majid, a senior correspondent with Greater Kashmir, is a member of Muslim Leaders of Tomorrow Global network and can be mailed at &lt;a href="mailto:zulfikarmajid@gmail.com"&gt;zulfikarmajid@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-2054209119130463530?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/2054209119130463530/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=2054209119130463530' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/2054209119130463530'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/2054209119130463530'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2009/06/kashmir-land-of-hartals.html' title='KASHMIR – THE LAND OF HARTALS'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-350660519431392922</id><published>2009-05-01T02:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-05-01T02:50:32.228-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Muslims targeted. Responsible who?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Has West been the soul exploiter. Are Muslims themselves responsible for the mess they are in. Did situation worsen for them catching them unawares. To this effect, reasons are many, writes Zulfikar Majid&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What went wrong for the world to become such a difficult place for a Muslim to live. On introspection, it becomes very hard to find one factor entirely and absolutely responsible. Many people believe and argue that it is the Muslim world in general and the Muslim leadership in particular that has failed itself, yet they agree that the non-Muslim world did not fulfill its responsibilities either. The only major concern rather grievance of the Muslim world of the pre-cold-war times was the Palestinian conflict. The cause and the grievance was genuine which is corroborated by the fact that majority of the non-Muslim world shared the Muslim concerns with regard to Palestine. The concerns remain, although a huge support base for the cause has been lost owing to the changing world scenario where economic, military and diplomatic interests find preference over humanity and justice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During the cold war the world was divided and polarized. The world powers were more interested in exploiting the conflicts like Palestine for their own benefits rather than solving them on the grounds of justice and humanity. America made use of the so called Mujahideen in Afghanistan to defeat the Soviet Union with the help and active support of Pakistani military and intelligence which played a pivotal role in the Taliban uprising. Before leaving the Afghans alone, the United States had the moral obligation to see to the matter that the mess of warlords was cleared and the country was set in order.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the Afghan war was still on, it gave vent to a dormant Kashmir dispute which had already forced Hindu majority India and Muslim majority Pakistan to go to war, at least twice after their independence from the British in 1947. Kashmiris demanded right to self determination as envisaged in the UN resolutions on Kashmir which was out -rightly rejected by India. The mass uprising took a violent turn when Kashmiri youth took to arms against the Indian state in 1989. Fighting has left tens of thousands dead and raised fears that the stubborn conflict could escalate into a full-scale nuclear war. Both countries tested nuclear devices in 1998 which was the peak time of a resistance movement started by Kashmiris in late eighties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Around one hundred thousand people have lost lives in this conflict, about one million rendered homeless, thousands of houses destroyed and thousands of men and women disabled physically or mentally. Once again the world leaders disappointed the Muslim world by giving a deaf ear to the Kashmiri people. The torture and violations of human rights inflicted on the Kashmiri Muslims generated sympathies for them all around the Muslim world, which resulted in diversion of many warriors just relieved from the Afghan war to join Kashmiris in their struggle. The appearance of the hard core warriors and fidayeen (suicide bombers) from the non-local outfits gave it a more extremist outlook.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 2002, armies of both the nuclear powers (India and Pakistan) stared each other eye-ball to eye-ball on the borders of Kashmir after attack by some terrorists on Indian Parliament in New Delhi. Both countries mobilized more than million troops on the border and it raised fears of a nuclear catastrophe. But after mobilizing troops, both the countries realized that war was no option and a peace process started between the two before it broke down in November 2008 after ten heavily armed terrorists attacked financial capital of India Mumbai killing atleast 200 civilians. India accused Pakistani hand in the attack while the later denies it. War hysteria is on in both the countries right now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kashmir is the root cause of problem between India and Pakistan and has a potential to become a nuclear tussle if the conflict remains unresolved. By this time there were three burning issues for the Muslim and the non-Muslim worlds to tackle and solve; undoubtedly the Muslim world has always looked towards the West to solve its issues. The lack of unity among the Muslim nations and Muslims as a whole is evident from the war and differences between Afghan factions, the Palestinian parties and the different separatist forces in Kashmir. Apart from this the world powers have shown reluctance and sluggishness in addressing the genuine concerns of the Muslim world while being capable of doing so by sacrificing some petty national, political and diplomatic interests.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of late new US president Barrack Hussein Obama’s statement that he would appoint a special envoy for Kashmir has rekindled hopes among Kashmiris. Kashmir conflict is giving an excuse to the extremist organizations in Pakistan and even Afghanistan to exploit the situation. One has to agree that in the short term the world had to launch a concerted effort against terrorism which it did in the form of so called War on Terror although in an exaggerated manner. But in the longer term the world powers also had the responsibility to look into the root cause of the extremist and militant outbursts, and try to eliminate them as far as possible. On the contrary a generalization was done and just struggles for freedom and human rights were termed as terrorist and extremist movements which only exacerbated the situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Terrorist and extremist forces need favorable conditions and moral support among their societies to thrive and flourish just as much as fish need water to survive. The world powers ensured that they keep getting this support and these favorable conditions by intimidating Muslim world for reasons that were either too insignificant or unknown. The invasion on Iraq, insults of Abu Ghraib, inhuman treatment at Guantanamo bay, silent spectatorship of Palestinian siege, ruthless bombing of Afghanistan, arm twisting of Iran and Pakistan were the realities that made the Muslim world trust the theories and notions of the extremists who at least appeared to be fighting for their concerns and shared their faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Slow but sure, the Muslim world lost faith in US and Europe casting serious doubts on the intentions of the world powers. It is a common notion among Muslims that the West is after the Muslim nations as it wants to control the oil reserves that they possess. They feel that the West has made excuses like war on terror and weapons of mass destruction to further its interests of controlling oil reserves or capturing strategically important locations. Many people draw parallels between the nuclear aspirations of Iran and North Korea and the difference in reactions by the US towards the two countries. Abetting Israel in mass killing of helpless Palestinians, Signing MoUs with Israel while it was still busy committing war crimes in Gaza are the realities out of which young Muslims of today draw their conclusions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The challenge for the United States, Britain and other world powers is to win over the hearts of Muslims across the globe and exhibit that they really believe in peaceful co-existence with the Arab and the Muslim world. They need to assure the Muslim world that their genuine concerns will be resolved in a fair and neutral way. Finding the root cause of the extremist and terrorist activities/movements and giving much of their attention to address them will be the real challenge before the world powers. Whether? When? And how the West does so, will surely determine the future of this planet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Zulfikar Majid, a senior correspondent with Greater Kashmir is member of Muslim Leaders of Tomorrow Global Network and can be mailed at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="mailto:zulfikarmajid@gmail.com"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:85%;"&gt;zulfikarmajid@gmail.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:85%;"&gt;) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-350660519431392922?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/350660519431392922/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=350660519431392922' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/350660519431392922'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/350660519431392922'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2009/05/muslims-targeted-responsible-who.html' title='Muslims targeted. Responsible who?'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-7547288951675065840</id><published>2009-03-06T01:01:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-05-13T06:29:48.247-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Does the West Have a Role?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333399;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Understanding Kashmir&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By ZULFIKAR MAJID&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Srinagar, Kashmir:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The resolution of the Kashmir issue will help eradicate religious extremism in Pakistan. Militant elements in the region will find little reason to blame the West for negative interference once the issue of Kashmir is resolved. There is rise of Taliban in Afghanistan and the rise of Muslim extremism in Pakistan. Pakistan along with Americans is presently fighting resurgent Talibans in its area bordering Afghanistan. But the Kashmir dispute, which dates back to 1947 partition of the Indian sub-continent into India and Pakistan, continues to be the biggest hurdle in peace in the region. The lingering Kashmir dispute allows the extremist elements to incite passions among the masses and get recruits for the global Jihad.&lt;br /&gt;It seems the West understands it. The British Foreign Secretary David Miliband wrote in the Guardian after his recent visit to south Asia: “On my visit to south Asia, I am arguing that the best antidote to the terrorist threat in the long term is cooperation. Although I understand the current difficulties, resolution of the dispute over Kashmir would help deny extremists in the region one of their main calls to arms, and allow Pakistani authorities to focus more effectively on tackling the threat on their western border.” The comment, angering the Government of India that considers Kashmir as its integral part, is valid in so far as Kashmir continues to be the hot spot in South Asia and a potential source for the nuclear confrontation.&lt;br /&gt;The Kashmir problem began in 1947 with the partition of the British India that led to formation of two sovereign countries India and Pakistan.&lt;br /&gt;Pakistan immediately claimed the right over Muslim-dominated Jammu and Kashmir state, in accordance with the principles of the two-nation theory, which stated Muslim majority areas should become part of new dominion called Pakistan.&lt;br /&gt;The first war between India and Pakistan over Kashmir started in 1947 with Pakistan gaining control over 1/3rd of Kashmir that is called Pakistan administered Kashmir. Pakistanis call it Azad (independent) Kashmir. The major portion remained under India and is called Jammu and Kashmir. The war ended only after the UN intervention and the UN resolutions that called for withdrawal of troops from both the Kashmirs and the holding of plebiscite.&lt;br /&gt;However, India refuses to hold the plebiscite, saying the bilateral agreements between India and Pakistan have made the Kashmir a bilateral issue and any third party including the UN has no role.&lt;br /&gt;But still the issue of Kashmir consistently threatens peace in South Asia by straining relations between the two nuclear neighbors, India and Pakistan, and giving rise to increasing militancy and religious extremism amongst the local population. Three wars and ongoing conflict between both the countries has led extremist groups to use religion to garner support amongst Pakistanis and Muslim Kashmiris for their cause.&lt;br /&gt;The anti-India armed insurgency backed by mass uprising erupted in Jammu and Kashmir or in Indian controlled Kashmir in 1989 and since then it has consumed some 100,000 people. The human rights activists say that there are some 10,000 persons who were subjected to enforced disappeared by the Indian security forces for the past 20 years.&lt;br /&gt;The insurgents in early 90s sought support from the religious elements in Pakistan who support Kashmir jihad and describe it as unfinished agenda of the partition. While as in India the Hindu organizations like RSS consider Kashmir a part of Hindu civilization and oppose its secession.&lt;br /&gt;Situation changed for better with the governments of India and Pakistan starting a bus–service between the divided Kashmirs in 2005. Former President of Pakistan Parvez Musharraf advocated demilitarization of Kashmir, a proposal which had several takers in Kashmir-both separatist and mainstreams. Demilitarization was considered to be the prologue to solution of Kashmir problem which would not only bring a much needed political reprieve to the people of Kashmir but will also help in social and economic reconstruction of Kashmir. As the same discourse had picked up in the sub-continent, the November 26 terror attacks in Mumbai changed the scenario with India blaming Pakistani elements for the attacks and Pakistan denying the same.&lt;br /&gt;With the Mumbai attacks, Kashmir has again proved to be the only major obstacle in normalization of relations between India and Pakistan as it serves as an inspiration to some militant quarters across the region. General perception is that if this issue is resolved, it will rule out any possibility of a nuclear confrontation between the two neighbors besides denying extremist elements a call for arms. Further, the solution of Kashmir problem will open new possibilities of reduction in burgeoning defense expenditure of India and Pakistan, which will help in poverty alleviation in the region.&lt;br /&gt;If the West intervenes in Kashmir and helps in finding a lasting solution to Kashmir problem, it will be seen as a groundbreaking goodwill gesture to the Muslims of the world, which will open new possibilities of dialogue between the West and the Muslim world. It will help Muslims shed off the impression that the West is indifferent to their sufferings across the globe. The separatists or secessionists including some prominent religious leaders argue that the Western intervention is imperative as the bilateral dialogue between India and Pakistan has failed to deliver any substantial result. Despite being Muslims, Kashmiris don’t perceive the West as their enemies. The United Nations Militarily Observers Group office in Srinagar, the summer capital of Kashmir that oversees peace agreement brokered by the UN in 1947 between India and Pakistan and symbolizes the West in Kashmir is thronged by people who submit detailed memoranda seeking the UN and the US intervention in the dispute.&lt;br /&gt;(Zulfikar Majid is a journalist covering low intensity Kashmir conflict for the last six years and can be emailed at &lt;a href="mailto:zulfikarmajid@gmail.com"&gt;zulfikarmajid@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-7547288951675065840?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/7547288951675065840/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=7547288951675065840' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/7547288951675065840'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/7547288951675065840'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2009/03/does-west-have-role.html' title='Does the West Have a Role?'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-7294356928299007846</id><published>2008-11-26T00:59:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-01-11T04:56:03.757-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Dialogue means accommodation and dialogue is the key</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xNa78hbyai4/SWnsT2XmBiI/AAAAAAAAAAM/FS6H4CNcTu8/s1600-h/pb.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5290019063079503394" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 75px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 118px" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xNa78hbyai4/SWnsT2XmBiI/AAAAAAAAAAM/FS6H4CNcTu8/s320/pb.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;Miracles don’t happen so often. We will have to strive for the goal with a positive approach. No hegemonies, no diktats, let it be everyone’s voice that must matter. Prof. Abdul Gani Bhat, a senior Hurriyat Leader, in an exclusive interview with ZULFIKAR MAJID.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How do you view present situation in Jammu and Kashmir?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;I’m not an analyst, but in terms of politics, I’m an eyewitness to peoples’ glances, shrugs and chance remarks. These glances, shrugs and chance remarks are more revealing than many articles writers produced on Kashmir. If you interpret these glances, shrugs and chance remarks, I trust you can hear the cry of the soul of Kashmir. You can locate in the depth of the soul of the Kashmir, the sentiment. When you talk with reference to current uprising at the peoples’ level, I will give you four elements which need to be addressed by India, Pakistan and by Kashmiri leadership primarily.a) The sentiment is alive and kicking. The sentiment that no Kashmiri will accept Indian political hegemony. b) The youth who were born amidst the roar of the gun, constituted the frontline in the recent uprising which means that sentiment has been transferred from older generation to younger one. That means sentiment is alive for tomorrow also. But for India, it is a huge problem which needs attention. c) Kashmiris are caught up in conflict situation and political hegemony of the India is not acceptable to Kashmiri ethos. But at the same time he recognizes that he lives in India. Therefore he has to strike either a balance or work out an adjustability and adaptability whereby he can fight and live together. To mix up these two is a gigantic task to any community. d) The divide between Jammu and Kashmir is total. It is regionally, politically, economically and unfortunately religiously too. This has to be addressed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In clear terms tell us what is the sentiment of a common Kashmiri?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;I repeat, Kashmiris consider that they are the master of their destiny and are the final arbitrators of their fate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Are they fighting against Indian rule in Kashmir?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;To be straight, yes off course, because India made promises to the people of Kashmir. The promises were honored more in breach rather than in observance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Is session or Azadi from India achievable?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;This is a different proposition. I talked with reference to the questions you asked. When you ask me are they fighting Indian rule, I said yes. But is Azadi achievable or not, is entirely a different proposition. What is achievable and what is not achievable is entirely a different proposition which in an answer to a question of a journalist is not possible to give.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Then what for Hurriyat Conference is fighting of which you were chairman and now a senior leader?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;If you draw lines on running water, you can never come up with a picture. In politics 2+2, they say never makes 4, but less than 5 and more than 3. But in my politics 2+2 makes 4 and just 4. I consider that nuclear weaponasation of India and Pakistan has entirely changed the situation in the sub-continent. In this regard, we have to understand that war between India and Pakistan is never possible now. And if is the situation, what we can do next. Armed struggle. But for it you need to garner supporter at international level. But in my opinion I suspect we can’t get it and if we can’t get it, probably with armed struggle you can’t get desired results. So armed struggle no solution, war no solution, what do you next. Dialogue. In a dialogue, the principle is, you accommodate the other party. I accommodate you, you accommodate me. Accommodation is the principle. You have to rise above your traditional position on an issue where you believe you can reach the compromise. And that compromise is that Kashmiri wants an acceptable, honorable and durable solution of the problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;You people were engaged in a dialogue with New Delhi for years. What was the end result?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Smiles. Well those who talk in terms of UN Security Council resolutions have been waiting for last six decades, nothing happened. Not a single resolution was implemented in 61 years. How come we could work wonders in one or two meetings with the Government of India or the Government of Pakistan. Dialogue is a process and a process is a process which continues till you achieve your target. And I say it is a dialogue which probably can produce a compromising solution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;But why did dialogue process broke down?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;No process has broken down, because India and Pakistan are talking. And they aren’t talking weather, but Kashmir. Kashmir constitutes a potential threat to nuclear peace in sub-continent. The Indians and Pakistanis are caught up in the situation where they have to talk and come up with solution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;But will it be acceptable to the people of Kashmir?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;When we talk about the aspirations of Kashmir we talk about the aspirations of people of Jammu, Ladakh and the valley. Aspirations are fractured. Some of us seek accession with Pakistan, some independence and some like Farooq Abdullah and others seek India. They are Kashmiris. Aren’t they? So there is not a single voice as a matter of principle. Discordant voices as far aspirations go. And therefore when we talk of Kashmir, considering the contradiction, it is a compromise formula which will work. That is how I look at it, I may be wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Are you ready to enter into a dialogue with New Delhi again?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;If you ask me, I’ve no problem. Sanity demands that I should be talking. When I know that no military solution is available with me, when I know UN resolutions aren’t implemented, when I know India and Pakistan are talking, I should be talking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What is the reason you people aren’t talking?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;This is an issue which involves strategy. If we aren’t talking, we in matter of fact are impressing the leadership in New Delhi and Islamabad that we want a meaningful, purposeful and productive dialogue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;OK, coming to Hurriyat unification proposal. Where does it stand now?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Well the unity is what everybody would want to happen. But it can’t happen in a vacuum. You have to do the talking and sorting out issues. Issues that separate you or that sometimes probably make you speak what you never should. While sorting out issues, you have to agree on amicable minimum political programme. And if you can do it, unity is possible. And unity is what everybody would love to see happening in Kashmir at Hurriyat level.We should work hard for unity, but hegemony is never acceptable to all of us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Hegemony from which side?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Any side. Umar Farooq’s side, Geelani Sahib’s side, Yasin Malik’s side. Hegemony isn’t acceptable. Collectivism in politics in need of the hour.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Was hegemony the reason for Hurriyat breakup?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;One of the reasons, no doubt it. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;From which side?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Well I don’t want to go to the sides of the episode which happened a few years back. Don’t flock the dead horses that will give you nothing. I think we should move forward towards brighter tomorrow rather than talk about yesterday’s darkness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Is there any timeframe for unity?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Difficult to say, a week, a month or more than it. It is situational. If a situation develops favoring unity, it must happen. But if it develops against it, it may take more time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming to recent huge protest rallies in Kashmir. Prof Bhat was missing.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Yes I was missing. No doubt about it. But silence sometimes speaks more than louder voices in streets. Hurriyat was represented by none other than its chairman Mirwaiz Umar. Hurriyat was represented by a team nominated for Coordination Committee. I was not a member of it. I would therefore not be with them. But there was no bar either for me to be with them. I was involved politically and intellectually. I ask you a question. Was whole Kashmir on roads? And those who didn’t come out, were they not involved? If my son or daughter was involved, I was there and if my chairman was involved, I was there very much. Entire leadership is not required to represent the forum in an agitation or uprising. It isn’t done anywhere in the world. I’m the author of the agenda which Hurriyat gave after economic blockade of the Valley. The agenda was that if Jammu people of two and half district seek separate state, we have no problem. They implemented economic blockade, and we in exercise of our right to live talked about alternative route, Muzafferabad Chalo. Then we also talked about alternative market, Rawalpindi.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Was this agenda set by Prof Bhat?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Yes. We were in a meeting and some people said we should carry out a dialogue. I said this is traditional politics, we should produce an agenda which should look revolutionary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Was Hurriyat leadership ready for the situation which arose after economic blockade?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;I don’t think. No leaders expected the upsurge so massive as it turned out to be. Events overtook the leadership and that is why they couldn’t give movement a direction and fix the targets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What should be the strategy now?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;I think leadership is aware of the hazards. We have taken on India which is world’s second largest country. It is a huge adventure. I won’t call it a mis-adventure, but it is an adventure. To win, we need a strategy. I think entire leadership should join heads together, workout a strategy and implement it as effectively as they should.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What is your say about elections?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Election for us is a non-issue. We seek a settlement of the dispute.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What about holding of elections under neutral observers?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;We have to draw a line between an election and a plebiscite. Election is a democratic process as far as government formation is concerned and plebiscite is a democratic exercise as far as future dispensation of Kashmir is concerned. The people of J&amp;amp;K have been fighting for plebiscite not for elections. We are ready for any elections under any neutral organization like SAARC, ASEAN or Common Wealth or United Nations any time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the practicable solution of Kashmir?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;I think general (Parvez Musharaf) gave us a good idea. He said if you can implement four-point formula in step by step manner, we could reach to a stage where we can workout a permanent solution of K-dispute.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Do you accept that gun played a role in highlighting Kashmir issue?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Yes, no doubt it. Gun created a roar and it was heard all over. People focused on Kashmir. But now we can’t garner the global support for gun. For any movement in world you need three elements. One is Hulchul, which is where the movement is launched, there has to be some uprising, some expression of anger and some manifestation of alienation. Second you should enjoy support at global level and three is that doors for talks should never be closed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;People say that Hurriyat leaders demand Azadi from India, but are themselves living under security provided by the India?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;(Smiles). Leader isn’t a rare commodity. All governments wherever you go ensure the safety of not only leadership but all people. But leaders are more exposed to dangers and therefore more care is taken by the governments. There are (security) men around the leaders in Kashmir, but they don’t deter them from their advancement towards their destination.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;One of the failures of Hurriyat is that it couldn’t take care of orphans, widows and destitute of militancy?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;There is bound to be what you call inadequacies or glaring weakness in forum politics. Inherent weaknesses in forum politics. If you say you should have been running an office like secretariat, it was not possible because of many reasons. We are doing our little bit whatever we can do. Whatever little we have or we can, we do it. Probably doing it as generously as you can.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;There are allegation from certain quarters that Hurriyat receives massive funds from different counties, but they never utilize it for the purpose they have been sent.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;There are organizations which have been banned by the Government of India. No donations can reach to such organization. Even if this is conceived as a matter of argument, yes, they have money. Where does the money come from isn’t my problem. Do they squander the money or spend it on organizational matters, on political and diplomatic exercises and peoples welfare, yes they are doing it. And if there are any mishaps or mistakes, I would only want that such mistakes should never ever happen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Your message for youth of Kashmir.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;The youth is my future and I was my youth to use their brain and shine like stars do on the skies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-7294356928299007846?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/7294356928299007846/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=7294356928299007846' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/7294356928299007846'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/7294356928299007846'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2008/11/dialogue-means-accommodation-and.html' title='Dialogue means accommodation and dialogue is the key'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xNa78hbyai4/SWnsT2XmBiI/AAAAAAAAAAM/FS6H4CNcTu8/s72-c/pb.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-3337351301703965930</id><published>2008-09-25T05:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-01-11T04:41:50.540-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Nothing less than the right to self-determination</title><content type='html'>&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;If all the parties of Kashmir dispute reach a consensus, then independent Kashmir is also a possibility. But nothing less than right to self-determination is acceptable to us and accession to Pakistan would be conditional. &lt;strong&gt;Syed Ali Shah Geelani&lt;/strong&gt; in an exclusive interview with GK senior correspondent &lt;strong&gt;ZULFIKAR MAJID&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How do you view present crisis in the state?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;Sometimes our enemy does something which harms us in short term, but in the long term that is beneficial. Same happened here. The state government transferred 800 kanals of forestland to Shrine Board on the instructions of New Delhi. But the grace of Almighty Allah it awakened people of Kashmir and hundreds and thousands of people are on the streets demanding freedom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Did it provide impetus to the ongoing freedom struggle? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;Definitely. Any nation who wants to achieve freedom should first realize that we are slaves. When people realize that their life, property, honor and dignity isn’t safe at the hands of oppressor, then people fight for their rights.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whom would you blame for the present crisis? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;If you look at the history of J&amp;amp;K you will come to know that the leadership has always ditched people of J&amp;amp;K. On July 13, 1931, our 22 people sacrificed life while fighting against Dogra rule. In 1932, Muslim Conference came into existence to safeguard these sacrifices. But in 1938, MC was divided and National Conference created. The excuse made to divide MC was that it represents only Muslims while Hindus are also living in the state. But that was not justified, as in that period government was of Hindus. They were in administration, police and army. They had no problems. It was the conspiracy of Indian National Congress. They knew that India would achieve freedom from British and after that there should be someone who would give Kashmir to them and they created Sheikh Muhammad Abdullah.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;But my question is regarding present crisis, not the past. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;See, if you will forget your past, you will fall in quagmire where from you can never come out. Past has direct impact on the present. Had we not been occupied in 1947, there would have been no wars between India and Pakistan. No country would have acquired atom bomb and beg before USA. Whatever present crisis we have, it was because of the past. When militancy broke out in 1990, it created fear among Indian troopers in Kashmir, which no one can deny. There was sense of upper hand. But in 1996, Farooq Abdullah came forward and became Chief Minister with the help of Army. There is no difference between Kuka Parray and Farooq Abdulla. Kuka Parray was created by the Army and Farooq Abdullah was also made Chief Minister by the Army.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Do you mean that NC is responsible for every problem of Kashmiris? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;NC is the main accused and is responsible for every misery of Kashmiris. I’ve said it in the assembly before Sheikh Abdullah.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;But you always say that NC, PDP, Congress and other mainstream parties are equally responsible for the present mess? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;Yes, all are responsible, but NC figures first&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;When Action Committee Against Land Transfer was formed, it announced that after SASB land transfer issue will be sorted and that it would fight against what it called illegal occupation of 8 lakh kanals of land under Army? What happened later?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;Their job was done. Rest of the issues are political in nature. ACALT had representatives from Traders Federation, chamber of commerce and they can’t interfere in political issues. For basic issue, political parties will take care. Regarding Hurriyat unification proposal, what is the latest on that? Talks are on. Three-member committee from both the sides is discussing unification proposals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Is there any timeframe? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;There is no timeframe. Our stand is based on principles. Till people of J&amp;amp;K aren’t given right to self-determination, our struggle would continue. Outside this, accepting any proposal is to weaken our stand. From March 23, 1952, talks have been held on Kashmir at least 130 times. But it yielded nothing. If now we will start bilateral talks with India, it will be futile till it accepts disputed status of the state in clear terms. And till Disturbed Area Act and Armed Forces Special Powers Act aren’t revoked, we won’t talk to India.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isn’t Hurriyat (M) ready to accept these conditions? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;Our stand is based on the principles. In past they Hurriyat (M)) started bilateral talks with India and Pakistan without seeing the consequences. Without analyzing Musharaf’s four-point formula on Kashmir, they accepted that. In future, there should be no scope for bilateral talks and only right to self-determination should be the basis of our struggle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Is there any proposal from Hurriyat (M) for the unity? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;There are no proposals and they are ready to accept our formula. But we are yet to reach any conclusion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Do you think a united Hurriyat would be more effective in highlighting the Kashmir issue in international forums?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;If we will remain steadfast on our stand, it would be more important. Hurriyat was united for 10 years from 1993-2003, but couldn’t deliver properly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What was the reason?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;Ideological differences. Apart from that for 10-years India didn’t give much importance to united Hurriyat for 10 years. India’s attitude is rigid as they think they can occupy Kashmir by force always. In such a situation resistance forces have to take every step carefully.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;From the past several elections, you have been vigorously launching boycott campaign. But several people say Geelani himself fought elections under Indian constitution? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;I defend my decision before people and Alhamdullilah they accept it. When I fought elections, people used to vote for developmental issues. Congress, NC and other parties were strengthening Indian occupation in Kashmir. We used to make people aware that pro-India parties seek votes in the name of development, but in assembly they are working against Islam. Vote had same power that time which later bullet had. We fought elections on two principles. We projected Islam as way of life in comparison to Socialism, Communalism and Secularism. And during election campaign we used to highlight Kashmir issue. Even in assembly, I used to talk about the Kashmir dispute. We never talked of perks and privileges during election rallies and in the assembly, but about Kashmir issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Is Geelani Sahib receiving the pension as a former MLA and how would you defend it? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;It is not your question, but created by Indian agencies. When a government employee retires, pension is his right. Similarly, an MLA who spends 10 or 15 years in assembly has the right to get pension.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;But when you say no elections under constitution of India, how would you defend your decision? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;(Smiles) You can say when cause is so sacred and high profile, then a person should prefer it over perks. For your information, I’ve stopped taking the pension from July 2005 despite it being my right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Separatists frequently call for strikes which affect the common masses. How would you defend the decision of strike calls?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;Nation, which is engaged in a struggle for freedom, has to give sacrifices. You can’t keep everything intact and also achieve freedom. When India was fighting against British, they too offered sacrifices and strike calls. In freedom struggles, sacrifices are a must. In the present situation, how can you show your resentment?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;One more accusation against separatist leadership is that they didn’t allow their children to join militancy. Instead their children and relatives either are settled aboard or are holding good positions in the state government?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;(Smiles) You can’t forcibly ask anybody to join militancy. Till someone isn’t willing to join, he can’t deliver.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;You have been advocating for UN resolutions and tripartite talks but now even Pakistan says that UN resolutions are obsolete and there is need to show flexibility. Your comments?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;Despite being a colony of America this time, Pakistan overall is an independent country. But we are salves and we have to decide what we need. We have to see what is best for Kashmiris. Pakistan or its leaders have no right to give roadmaps on Kashmir.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Pakistan Peoples Party co-chairman, Asif Ali Zardari recently stated that Pakistan should forget about Kashmir for a time being and leave it to next generations.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;He can forget, but we can’t. We aren’t dependent on their roadmaps.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Greater Autonomy, United States of Kashmir, four-point formula, integral part of India, jugular vein of Pakistan, independent Kashmir. Between all these options do you have any other practical solution for the settlement of Kashmir issue?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;Nothing less than right to self-determination which is peaceful, democratic, viable and very much a practicable solution. Everybody wants that J&amp;amp;K shouldn’t get divided on regional or religious lines. How is it possible? If you will solve Kashmir through talks, you have to apply give and take formula. In such a scenario state would be divided. To keep the geographical identity of the state intact, it is most essential that people of J&amp;amp;K should be given the right to self-determination. And we have time and again said it that we would accept the decision of majority.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;New Delhi often accused that separatist movement in Kashmir is being sponsored by Islamabad?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;Most of the times, they used to say it about me that I am pro-Pak. But I never accepted dictations from Pakistan. I’m not talking about General Musharaf regime only. When I was Chairman of APHC in 1998, Shamshad Sahib was Pakistan’s representative to UN, and he had given a statement that Pakistan represents the sentiments of people of J&amp;amp;K and whatever decisions they would take, Kashmiris would accept. When I was asked about it, I rejected the statement and said that we have not given them this right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Of late, you have been talking about independent Kashmir as one of the options.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;I’ve been saying it for long that accession with Pakistan would be conditional and it won’t be a merger. Similarly, I’ve said If India, Pakistan and people of J&amp;amp;K would be ready by consensus for independent Kashmir, we would accept it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;And what about third option in a plebiscite? In UN resolutions there is no mention of third option.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;I said if all the parties of dispute reach a consensus, then only independent Kashmir is possible, not in a plebiscite as it would divide our vote.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a recent interview with GK, state Congress president Prof Saif-ud-Din Soz said that if separatists claim to be representatives of the people, they should show it in elections. Are you people ready to fight elections to show your representative character?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;He is wrong. Those who are elected in so-called elections aren’t genuine representatives. I fought election from 1971 to 1987. They were all rigged. There is no credibility of such elections through which people like Soz Sahib have been elected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Who is the real representative of the people of J&amp;amp;K?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;Separatists or mainstream parties? People who represent the aspirations and sentiments of Kashmiris are the real representatives. And I can say it with authority that those who represent sentiments for Azadi are the real representatives of the people of J&amp;amp;K.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Do you think that mainstream parties like NC and PDP have a role to play in resolution of K-issue?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;They have no right, as they are the people who are responsible for the slavery of Kashmiris. Their role is only limited to participate in so-called elections.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;NC president Omar Abdullah recently in an interview with GK said that he has no problems in sharing any platform with the separatists. Do you hold the same view about the mainstream parties?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;What can they do to settle the K-issue? They accept accession to India as final solution. NC’s stand is autonomy and Mufti (Muhammad Sayeed) Sahib’s stand is status quo with Pakistan. Congress wants complete occupation. What can you achieve by sharing table with such people?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;You are being considered hardliner and several people in India say that Hurriyat Conference (Mirwaiz) is the better group to talk to. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;When they (Mirwaiz Hurriyat) went to New Delhi in 2004 for talks, I was addressing a rally at Chotta Bazar where a youth had been martyred. I announced it from there, if they can bring freedom, I would be the first one to welcome them. Today, again I say, if they can achieve freedom b y talking to India, we are with them. Ask them now, what they achieved by talking to India. Musharaf also talked to India, but achieved nothing. When militancy broke out in Kashmir in 1990, like most of the leaders that time you also supported gun. Do you think gun has any role to play now? Do you think we supported gun that time because of any compulsion. Our policy this time is also that gun is a factor in the solution of Kashmir issue. We have no direct contact with them (militants) and we won’t use gun in our struggle. Infact, our policy is that even we won’t use even a stone in our struggle. When some youth raised some provocative slogans like against India recently, I stopped them. We won’t use gun in our struggle, but gun is a factor till we won’t achieve freedom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Has militant leadership any role to play? They have a definite role. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;Their representation is a must in any solution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Apart from implementation of UN resolutions, is there any other solution of Kashmir issue?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;By consensus, if all the parties involved in the conflict agree for total independence of whole of the J&amp;amp;K including AJK. But the best solution is implementation of UN resolutions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;When Army and other security agencies are involved in human rights violations, you highlight them. But some people say when militants are involved in such violations you keep mum? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;In the second edition of my book Qasia Dard, I’ve highlighted the wrongdoings of militants on 13 pages. Militants weren’t angles, they were also human beings and humans commit mistakes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-3337351301703965930?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/3337351301703965930/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=3337351301703965930' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/3337351301703965930'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/3337351301703965930'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2008/09/nothing-less-than-right-to-self.html' title='Nothing less than the right to self-determination'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-4782498892834449266</id><published>2008-09-12T01:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-12T01:15:32.213-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I don’t believe in nothing or everything</title><content type='html'>Freedom struggles across the world have succeeded or failed. A host of factors determine the probability of success or failure. I believe in incremental approach. I've no doubt about the conviction and aspirations of our people as they have rendered exemplary sacrifices, but leadership is in desperate need of a workable strategy. Peoples Conference leader, &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Sajjad Gani Lone&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, in an exclusive interview with GK senior correspondent &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Zulfikar Majid&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How do you view present uprising in the state?&lt;br /&gt;The present uprising is a manifestation of the sentiment in its most profound form. Two distinctive features stand out. First it is a continuation of the struggle since 1947 and second it is a peaceful movement, wherein the level of sentiment, emotions and involvement of the people of Kashmir have peaked. Irrespective of how it started, it is way towards resolution of Kashmir issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What for lakhs of people were on streets? Was it because of land transfer controversy, economic blockade or any other reason?&lt;br /&gt;It is simple and straightforward. They are demanding Azadi. They are demanding secession from India and resolution of Kashmir issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is Azadi or secession from India achievable?&lt;br /&gt;Freedom struggles across the world have succeeded or failed. A host of factors determine the probability of success or failure. Two internal dimensions are important. The conviction and aspirations of the people to struggle and a capable leadership to direct the struggle towards a successful attainment of objective of liberation. I've no doubt about the conviction and aspirations of our people, they have rendered exemplary sacrifices. I'm afraid I can't say the same for the caliber and capability of the leadership.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whom would you blame for present crisis?&lt;br /&gt;It is all rooted in not resolving Kashmir issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So you mean to say that land transfer controversy and economic blockade aren't the reasons?&lt;br /&gt;Things sometimes act as catalysts. In 1987, you had rigged elections. That wasn't the cause of 1990 movement, but it acted as a catalyst. It inspired the people to go on the original cause. Similarly, this shrine board land transfer controversy catalyzed and inspired the people. It was a timely colonial reminder.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Did it provide impetus to the ongoing "freedom" struggle?&lt;br /&gt;Much needed fresh impetus. Not to the freedom struggle, but to the people. Freedom struggle was always there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How do you view recent agreement between government and Sangrash Samiti?&lt;br /&gt;It is a non-issue and doesn't matter. I never believe that Sangrash Samiti was any organization running the agitation. It was the state agitation, as they wanted to give a perception that there isn't only one view in J&amp;amp;K state, but there is a counter view also. It was run by the state and was ended by the state. So I don't think we should waste our time discussing the merits of that agreement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So you mean than land is no issue.&lt;br /&gt;Land is an issue, but at proper time. As on date resolution of Kashmir is the main issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In your view what is the solution now?&lt;br /&gt;My vision of solution is laid out in detail in our vision document titled Achievable Nationhood. I stand by it and I feel it is most relevant today. Leadership in Kashmir is in desperate need of strategy. Hartals, protests, sacrifices are means to an end. They cannot be an end in themselves. We need a mission statement, a clear demarcation of short term, medium term and long-term objectives. In the short term, we could chart out what I call achievable issues. In medium term, we need to force the Indian state to come up with a formal, structural, time bound dialogue process involving India, Pakistan and Kashmiris. And in the long term, would strive for a final resolution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the meaning of "opt out option" in your "Achievable Nationhood"?&lt;br /&gt;Since J&amp;amp;K is not ethnically homogenous and there is small amount of heterogeneity. If some areas feel that their interests aren't better suited being part of J&amp;amp;K, they should opt out. We believe that regions can't be allowed to opt out because regions aren't ethnically homogenous. If opt out option is allowed, a small area spread over two and half districts might decide to opt out. I think, it would make their lives better and would solve there as well as our problems. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On May 25, 2008 in a seminar you talked about realism. Where does the realism stand now?&lt;br /&gt;It is much more relevant now than when I said it. Our problem is that we live in a world of disinformation. People try to confuse realism with dilution of objectives. I believe in incremental approach. I don't believe in everything or nothing approach. When I say realism, step-by-step approach it doesn't mean, we give up dream of liberation. Realism is an insurance against ending up with nothing. We practice realism for the self in our daily lives, why not practice realism for the nation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you think implementation of UN resolution and right to self-determination is still valid and practicable?&lt;br /&gt;In terms of implementation no. But in terms of them being an indicator that a dispute exists, the are most important, as they are the only proof you have that it is the disputed territory.&lt;br /&gt;I will put it in this way. The context of UN resolution is much more important than the content of the UN resolution. The content might have weakened, but the context is very very strong even today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You were accused of fielding proxy candidates in 2002 assembly elections.&lt;br /&gt;These were allegations made with mala fide political intentions by our ideological detractors. There were and are people in the separatist movement including my late father (Abdul Gani Lone) who fought elections and took oath under Indian constitution. I've been accused of fielding or facilitating proxies, but I've never taken oath under Indian constitution. Those who have taken oath under Indian constitution have shown no remorse and I've to be eternally slandered by virtue of an accusation. Let us have a debate who facilitated PDP victory, who supported Communists in 2002 elections. Anyway let bygones be bygones. I don't want a new controversy.&lt;br /&gt;The truth is that in 2002, I had just lost my father to bullets, I was new in politics and an emotional son grieving the loss of his father was unable to defend himself. I mixed politics and emotions. The greatest shock was that elders who I had addressed as uncles throughout my life and who I had thought would rally around their dead colleague's son were the ones raising the pitch. This paradox will always confront me. People who do not have the moral courage to fend for their dead colleague's, inexperienced son should never be expected to fend for the nation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Will Peoples Conference launch election boycott campaign in future?&lt;br /&gt;We will go by the collective decision of the separatist parties. We won't take any unilateral decision. Whatever separatist leadership decides, we would abide by that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During recent protest rallies, most of the separatist leaders were leading from the front. You were not seen anywhere in those rallies. Reasons.&lt;br /&gt;Movements have multidimensional facets. One has to address rallies, organize protests etc. Equally important is the message that you want to convey to the international community and to the people of the country, which has subjugated you. It is a politician's dream to be on the front-pages addressing mammoth rallies. I'm sure I can do that whenever I want to. This time I sacrificed it all and instead to the best of my ability tried to defend my nation in TV debates and media. I'm proud I never used the word "I" and instead used the word "WE". In TV debates, I forgot about the self and instead focused on the nation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If given a chance again, you would like to part of these rallies?&lt;br /&gt;Why not? Our people were there. People belonging to our party were there as it was people's movement. Our spirit was there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What about unification of Hurriyat Conference and other pro-freedom leadership.&lt;br /&gt;I'm not against unity and nobody perhaps can be against it. But we have to see what the objective is. Is objective unity? Is objective sitting together and getting ourselves photographed or is objective that we force the Indian state to deliver? If unity can bring in a level of mental and ideological cohesion that we can force India to deliver, then it is the best thing and I support it. Unity has to be on ideological grounds. Unless we do not address the main ideological parameters that divide us it is a futile exercise and bound to result in short term gain and long-term pain. Unity should not be for the sake of unity but for the sake of forcing India to deliver.&lt;br /&gt;Having said that, what we do need is excellent levels of communication between all separatist outfits. And one of the most important thing is that none of the separatist groups should be allowed the luxury of hitting out at each other publicly. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you think a united Hurriyat would be more effective in highlighting the K-issue in international forums?&lt;br /&gt;I don't think the separatists were ever divided. The broad objective has always been the same that we want our land to be liberated. Differences were whether it should be a one step process or a multi step process. Please read history. Unity and a united platform are utopian concepts and do not exist in the real world. Disputes per se are not irresolvable. Presence or absence of statesmanship, vision and courage of the leadership to the make distinction between the desirable and the achievable are the most important variables, which will make the Kashmir conflict resolvable. Lack of unity is a fig leaf.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Separatists frequently call for strikes, which affect common masses. Do you support strike calls?&lt;br /&gt;I do not subscribe to the concept of frequent strikes. Incidentally there is no evidence of strikes in Islamic history. Neither is there any significant correlation between strikes and successful liberation movements across the world. Striking work emerged mainly as a communist concept where the daily waged worker wants to inflict economic costs on to the capitalist owners. I fail to understand who we are punishing here and how does India get affected if we boycott economic activity and work. I'm sure the Indian state must be feeling elated when Kashmiri children do not go to school, the sick can't go to doctor, the daily waged lose their daily wages etc. If you look at a hartal or a curfew, anatomy of the two is almost same. One hartal or two hartals in a year, I can understand. If we don't allow our children to go to the schools, where will be the human resources to make it a great nation which we dream of?  It is a self-inflicted wound, which desperately needs a re-think.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, do you think that gun played a role in highlighting Kashmir issue and has it any role now?&lt;br /&gt;Gun played a role and nobody can deny it. When gun came here there was a concept of social sanctity attached to it and it is attached even today. People didn't see young men wielding the gun as terrorists or criminals, but as saviors and liberators of the nation. I think they aroused the conscience and were pivotal in rallying the sentiment of people peaking at that time.&lt;br /&gt;Now that the non-violent movement has come on to the fore, I wouldn't say that they are irrelevant. But I think as has been suggested by some statements of (militant) commanders that we allow more space to non-violent movement, because as on date it is more palatable for rest of the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a recent interview with GK, state Congress president Prof Saif-ud-Din Soz said that if separatists claim to be representatives of the people, they should show it in elections. Are you people ready to fight elections to show your representative character?&lt;br /&gt;I'm sad that Soz Sahib has said it. He is a Kashmiri and he should understand it that it is an Indian establishment's old excuse. People who have any doubt about separatists' representative character should have seen the people on the streets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And if elections are held under UN supervision.&lt;br /&gt;Any day we would be ready for that, but not under the Indian constitution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you think that mainstream parties like NC and PDP have a role to play in resolution of K-issue?&lt;br /&gt;They certainly have a role to play. When I talked about short term objectives they could convey to the Indian state that they will not fight elections, until short term demands are met. That is the role they have to play. But the problem with them is that they are confused. On one hand they want to please India and on other they want to please Kashmiris and the separatists. So they end up confusing the whole issue. They have a very big role to play, if they want to. They shouldn't fight elections, till India accepts some demands like opening of all routes with Pakistan and AJK, let the army go back to barracks, cases against Kashmiris be withdrawn, let all the Kashmiri prisoners be released and Kashmir be declared as economic zone. There are a lot of measures, which they could facilitate for this movement, if they are real Kashmiris and really feel for Kashmir.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NC president Omar Abdullah recently in an interview with GK said that he has no problems in sharing any platform with the separatists. Do you hold the same view about the mainstream parties?&lt;br /&gt;Irrespective of his ideology as an individual I see him as a very dynamic politician and was particularly impressed by a recent interview of his. Given his exposure, articulation and cosmopolitan image, he could be an asset to the movement if only he decides to resist the temptation of the perks of power. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So that means you are ready to share table with mainstreams for resolution of K-issue?&lt;br /&gt;I've absolutely no problem sitting with anybody. Nobody is above board and there are no holy cows here. We cannot afford to have Kashmiris countering Kashmiris. Nobody is perfect. We have ideological differences with the mainstream parties but I am sure that there can be an overlap over a range of issues and maybe the intensity of the sentiment bridges the ideological gulf in the future. If liberation is an objective it is imperative that an inclusive Kashmiri voice is amplified.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the realistic solution of Kashmir now?&lt;br /&gt;To be very honest, I'll still vouch for my "Achievable Nationhood" as one of the ways to resolve Kashmir. Unless and until you don't have an interim solution, which will finally evolve into a final resolution wherein India dimension, Pakistan dimension and the independence dimension are not addressed, I don't think you can reach to any solution.&lt;br /&gt;Short-term solution is to allow Kashmiris travel freely to Pakistan and AJK. Travel should be a matter of right and not a matter of subservience to the security agencies for issuance of documents. Pakistan could give them the rights which they give to their own citizens so that any Kashmiri who wants to live their, work their, conduct business should be allowed to do so. We should have identical political systems in AJK and this part of Kashmir. An economic union of of J &amp;amp; K and AJK should come into existence. The said economic union would be a single unified economic territory carved out of two distinct political and geographical territories. This economic union would be a distinct customs territory with its own distinct economic laws.  Goods grown or produced in this economic union should have duty free access into Pakistan and India. Cross border institutions should be allowed to evolve unhindered. All draconian laws sjould be repealed and Indian armed forces garrisoned away from civilian areas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the past some time, New Delhi has been saying that it is willing for cross LoC trade, but Pakistan is not.&lt;br /&gt;Who is interested in these trucks going for trade, which won't cross even one or two million dollars worth of trade? I do not know the Paksitani viewpoint. But Pakistan had come up with a host of proposals and I feel that india is selctively picking up one issue and more intersted in tokenism rather than real change. It is good if Pakistan refuses to be a party to tokenism. LOC trade for us means free flow of goods, services and people. Or put it simply allow do away with primitive era and give civilized era a chance to evolve.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then what is the solution for economic blockade of Valley?&lt;br /&gt;For trade, you need to travel and build contacts. You can't do trade when you aren't allowed to move freely. Let people go and come. I see the Muzzafarabad as the future trade route. That will put an end to all the threats of economic blockade by hooligans.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-4782498892834449266?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/4782498892834449266/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=4782498892834449266' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/4782498892834449266'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/4782498892834449266'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2008/09/i-dont-believe-in-nothing-or-everything.html' title='I don’t believe in nothing or everything'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-1031624207369189424</id><published>2008-09-06T02:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-06T02:25:46.458-07:00</updated><title type='text'>‘It is Muslim Jammu Kashmir versus Hindu India’</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;It seems today it is Muslim Jammu Kashmir versus Hindu India as whole country had come to support the Sangarsh Samiti and Hindu sentiment. Otherwise you couldn’t have economic blockade working. If a Muslim leader supports Hindu communal agenda that is considered as secularism and nationalism. But if a Muslim leader supports Muslim sentiment it is considered as anti-national and communalism. President of Peoples Democratic Party and member Parliament,&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;MEHBOOBA MUFTI&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;in an exclusive interview with GK senior correspondent &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;ZULFIKAR MAJID&lt;/span&gt; talks about the present political scenario in J&amp;amp;K, fallout of recent crisis and says that she still believes that PDP can achieve something within the system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: As PDP president how do you view present crisis in the state and who is to be blamed for it?&lt;br /&gt;It is a grave situation of concern for everybody. It isn’t about blame game now situation has got much beyond which we couldn’t have expected. At the base of it, we have to accept that Kashmir problem is in the minds and hearts of the people. Unless and until we don’t find a solution, any incident or a decision, which has a potential to create some kind of distrust, has the tendency to flare up the situation.&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately, there is a mindset in Delhi that once the situation settles down in Kashmir you don’t need to do anything about the situation. Normalcy can’t be taken as a substitute of solution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Is it a political crisis?&lt;br /&gt;It is not only a political crisis but crisis of confidence and trust. People seem to have lost any sort of confidence that was restored after 2002 elections. For the first time, people of J&amp;amp;K were working with the government, which was initiating, catalyzing and driving the peace process. People were feeling part of it. Fortunately, then NDA government was endorsing our decisions. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: What is the solution now?&lt;br /&gt;Kashmir issue needs to be settled.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Separatists have been saying it for decades. Do you endorse their stand?&lt;br /&gt;You don’t have to be a separatist to speak facts. You know there is a problem in the hearts and the minds of the Kashmiris and they want the resolution of the problem. And to say that, you don’t need to be a separatist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: UN resolutions and Right to Self-determination is the demand of separatists. In your view can it bring the solution?&lt;br /&gt;I can’t say about the UN resolutions right now. What were the conditions then, what was the situation at that time, what were the relations between India and Pakistan and what was the strength of troops on both the sides? You can find a solution by moving forward rather than going back into history. It is the present which is going to provide us the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Last month you and a few other mainstream leaders from Kashmir were asked to leave All Party Meeting at Jammu, how was the feeling?&lt;br /&gt;It wasn’t we were sitting and we were asked to leave. It was even before that when we were in Delhi, we were informed that Sangarsh Samiti has decided they are not going to meet Kashmiri Muslim leaders. Infact they said they wouldn’t meet all party delegation if we were there. As soon as we came to know about this, we opted out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Did it hurt you?&lt;br /&gt;I have a conviction and commitment and if people don’t like it and they oppose it, it doesn’t hurt me. After all, my stand is more dear to me rather what people think about me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: PDP supported Muzzafferabad Chalo call of Coordination Committee. Even you and few other PDP leaders stated they would march with the people. But apart from that PDP did nothing practically.&lt;br /&gt;Don’t say that. Seven of the people killed were PDP workers. We were very much part of Muzzafferabad Chalo march. I can give you the names.&lt;br /&gt;And it wasn’t the call given by CC, but Fruit Association. When All Party delegation arrived in Jammu, they did everything to appease the Samiti and other traders, as everybody kept condition to meet them. But when delegation came to Srinagar, traders and fruit growers were ready to talk to them without any conditions. But unfortunately, they had to wait for two hours and they felt humiliated. So much care was taken in Jammu to bend their backs and even we cooperated there. So when it became issue of our people and they needed our support, we were part of it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: You like so many people say that Kashmiris are being discriminated. Brute force was used here to quell protests, while in Jammu government showed restraint. If you can’t do anything to stop it, why don’t you resign from Parliament? &lt;br /&gt;(Smiles) It is very fashionable to say that I’ m going to resign. First of all I would say it isn’t Kashmir versus Jammu now. We have seen the discrimination on the basis of Muslim-Hindu. You will agree with me. If you will see how the people were dealt in Rajouri, Poonch and Kishtwar, where different means were used on two communities. It became more or less Muslim-Hindu kind of a problem, which is very unfortunate. Today, we are being bashed in national media and called by all kinds of names. But that doesn’t make us change our stand.&lt;br /&gt;Our party has been a part of the system. I can’t say that I’m 100 percent satisfied but at least we had some solace that a very new party could achieve much more within the system. We have been able to make difference within the system. So by making these rhetoric statements that I’m going to resign as I’m fed up of system and I will work outside it what will I achieve for the people? You can do more for your people within the system rather than outside it?&lt;br /&gt;What my experience is that we have been able to achieve something within the system. Mufti (Muhammad Sayeed) sahib has been the only leader who has been able to persuade and not be persuaded by the New Delhi.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: So you want to work within the system?&lt;br /&gt;I’m still hopeful about the system. There are still very reasonable voices in Delhi who are ready to listen to your reason and who are ready to give peace a chance. Otherwise, how could prime minister of India agree to one country, two systems? They gave J&amp;amp;K an edge when we demanded permit system on Muzzaferabad road. If we have enough convincing power and are able to cultivate enough support of masses, it is not a big deal to convince reasonable voices in Delhi to follow a line in J&amp;amp;K, which can ultimately lead to resolution of the problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Coming to Shrine Board land transfer controversy, Pro-freedom leaders, your erstwhile coalition partner Congress and NC blame PDP for it.&lt;br /&gt;It is the Chief Minister who is head of the cabinet. When Mufti Sahib was CM, he revoked the order. General SK Sinha himself admitted that he used to write to New Delhi about Mufti Sahib’s anti national activities. But people like you have forgotten many a things. Mufti Sahib revoked the order in 2005 when Sonali Kumar (Commissioner Secretary) wife of Arun Kumar (Chief Executive Officer Shrine Board) had managed the land diversion without the knowledge of the cabinet. She was served a notice and as usual Congress intervened and they went to a court and filed a PIL. Unfortunately, the person who was fighting the case became the judge. And the case was transferred to Jammu. It was all kind of an arranged thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: When the land was transferred why didn’t PDP’s then Forest Minister Qazi Muhammad Afzal and then Deputy CM Muzafar Hussain Beig oppose it in cabinet. Infact, initially they supported it.&lt;br /&gt;Do you remember that Ghulam Nabi Azad had taken Forest Ministry for four months from Qazi Afzal? Do you know that Forest Advisory clearance was manipulated at that point of time and who was the chairman of that board? It was Mr Kundal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Why didn’t you withdraw support that time?&lt;br /&gt;Whether you believe it or not the PPD leadership didn’t know about it. It was already done. We came to know about the land transfer only through your newspaper. Before that I was in Delhi and Beig Sahib called me and said “Mehbooba Jee, Shrine Board ka mamla aya tha, hum ne uss see reject kiya”. They (PDP ministers) had already rejected it twice in cabinet. Third time, CM had already cleared it through advisory council and routed it through Forest Minister. Because Forest Minister didn’t know about it political consequences, he cleared it, as advisory council had already cleared it.&lt;br /&gt;Yes, we accept our ministers should have again rejected it. But it doesn’t mean it was only PDP ministers and CM had nothing to do with it. &lt;br /&gt;When we came to know about this controversy, we tried to persuade Azad. We told him just get the order revoked. But it was a political game. NC first time had got an issue against PDP and so had Hurriyat. Azad who was all the time keen to go with NC was first time feeling that PDP was getting a beating. He underestimated the reaction in Kashmir. He thought he would consolidate his base in Jammu and NC would gain in Kashmir.&lt;br /&gt;We put an ultimatum on June 23, revoke it or we will withdraw. It was decided on June 26 with the Governor (who had not taken oath till then) that state government would provide all the facilities to the yatries and land diversion order would be revoked. But unfortunately, he (Azad) wasn’t doing it. He called PDP ministers on June 28 and tried to convey them that he couldn’t do it. He told our ministers (Abdul Aziz Zarger and Dilawar Mir) that Rajnath Singh (BJP president) has threatened that there would be massive protest throughout India, if order is revoked. He also told them that he can’t set the whole country on fire for Kashmir.&lt;br /&gt;Ultimately on June 28, we decided to withdraw to build pressure on Delhi.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: When PDP had severe differences with Congress on demilitarization, you choose to remain with them?&lt;br /&gt;From the very beginning, Azad’s way of functioning was a problem. Hindus of Jammu may be deadly against us this time, but they admit when Mufti was CM, he tried to be man of all the regions. But as soon as Azad came, he tried to do things to sabotage PDP. We never wanted to withdraw for our personal problems.&lt;br /&gt;He didn’t allow us to discuss demilitarization issue in the cabinet. But PM and UPA chairperson (Sonia Gandhi) intervened and said they are ready to set up a Defence Committee. Many schools, bunkers and other places were vacated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Mainstream parties and especially PDP over the years claimed that normalcy in the state has returned and also claim credit for that. Recent uprising by Kashmiris over SASB land controversy and economic blockade have dented those claims. What is PDP’s view now?&lt;br /&gt;When we say normalcy, we don’t mean nothing should be done. Development, progress and economic packages are very important, but resolution of Kashmir is equally important. In roundtable conferences, it was PDP who asked for reduction of troops, revocation of AFSPA, trans-LoC trade, rehabilitation of families of militants and return of boys from across (Pakistan). At that point of time all these parties shouted at us. I remember Farooq Abdullah taunting me in front of PM that I’m wearing a green abya and have green flag. We faced so many difficulties from every party. Even today all communal and so-called secular forces from Kaniyakumari to Jammu are ganged up on one side against PDP. In the name of proving their secular credentials, NC leadership supported Sangarsh Samiti. When government signed accord with Samiti, Farooq Abdullah went to the extent of saying this is the victory of truth and defeat of evil. But they forgot where does the Muslim sentiment go. Whole country had come to support the Samiti and Hindu sentiment. Otherwise, you couldn’t have economic blockade working. Now Kashmir had only hope with their leadership and among them there was a division. You had everybody coming to support Samiti with tridents and swords. If a Muslim leader supports Hindu communal agenda that is secularism and nationalism. But if a Muslim leader supports Muslim sentiment that is considered as anti-national and communalism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Will Kashmir be normal now?&lt;br /&gt;It isn’t normal and it can’t be. Unfortunately section of state and central governments has got polarized on communal lines. It seems today it is Muslim Jammu Kashmir versus Hindu India. Muslim Jammu Kashmir because in Jammu, you have Muslims in Rajouri, Poonch, Doda and other places. It seems Muslims of J&amp;amp;K are on one side and Hindus of India on the other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Under such circumstances, will you support Mirwaiz Umar’s proposal? (That fanatics can take two and half districts of Jammu where Hindus are in majority)&lt;br /&gt;If Mirwaiz who had been making very balanced statements and if today he is talking about such things, it is the situation on the ground. I was in Delhi and I had meetings with everybody from Pranab Mukherjee and Home Minister to everybody and I tried to make them understand no unilateral decisions. Because it would be seen as victory for Hindus and defeat for Muslims. If they had agreed to Samiti’s demands, what did you do for Kashmiris where more than 40 people were killed? We told them when you are taking sentiments of Jammu people in consideration; balance it by taking sentiments of Kashmiris also into consideration. At least they could have announced dates of opening of Muzzaferabad road, revocation of AFSPA.  Today Kashmiris have rejected the gun, but now they are facing the gun. What is the justification of AFSPA?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Out of power you people talk about human rights violations. When PDP came into existence, Mehbooba Mufti used to visit the families of those killed by troops. When your party came into power, you forgot about HR violations and so many people accused that you shed crocodile tears to woo the voters. Your say?&lt;br /&gt;Whenever anything used to happen (from 2002-2005), me and my father used to be there. I remember when a person was killed by the troops in Shopian and I went there, his daughter caught hold of my collar. When a bridegroom was killed in Kupwara, I and Mufti Sahib were there. We never said it was zero percent, but if you compare three years rule of PDP, with any period before or after, there were the least number of HR violations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: It has become a justification for every party that in our rule, there were less HR violations and in others there were more.&lt;br /&gt;I’m not giving any justification. I’m saying that we tried to improve. When Mufti Sahib took over, there was STF, Ikhwanis were extorting money and there was no sense of security.  Q: Who represents Kashmiris: Mainstream parties or separatists?&lt;br /&gt;You can’t categorize. Five or six hundred thousand people who were on streets recently weren’t led by the Hurriyat, but they got Hurriyat leaders from their houses. Today, it is youth who are leading Kashmir.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: But who represents their sentiment?&lt;br /&gt;It depends. There is anger and upsurge and it has so many dimensions. These are the youth who saw worst kind of things. The only way they feel they can vent out this anger is “Hum kya chahte, azadi”. Azadi has many dimensions. For me azadi is about empowerment of the people that nobody can blackmail you through blockade.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Can you mobilize say hundred thousand people in the name of mainstream politics?&lt;br /&gt;No. It isn’t possible because the sentiment among the people here is so anti-India and pro-independence at this juncture. People feel so hurt and alienated. I’m a mainstream politician and I believe in the system. But I’m not able to justify it to my people, why government showed restraint in Jammu, and in Kashmir over 40 people were killed. Muslims have started feeling that there is nobody behind them. For Hindus of Jammu whole country will come and even some of our leaders would stand by them. Who is going to stand by the Muslim majority, as everybody is scared that they would be called anti-nationals?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: When should be the elections held in the state?&lt;br /&gt;I can’t say. Wounds of people are still so raw. May be in Jammu they are ready to go for elections. People here didn’t get time to grieve due to curfew and other restrictions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Will there be any effect of election boycott now?&lt;br /&gt;People here feel disillusioned and it has further pushed them. The justification of separatists for election boycott is getting consolidated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: What will be PDP’s manifesto for coming elections?&lt;br /&gt;We will sit and discuss it when time comes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Will PDP enter into a coalition with Congress again before or after the polls?&lt;br /&gt;I don’t think. People of the state should learn the lesson from what happened during last few weeks. People were alienated on one side in Rajouri, Poonch and Doda while on the other side there were people who got everything. Message has to go that they have to give a party enough strength to stand for them. God forbid, if it isn’t decisive, communal forces coming up in Jammu will side with Congress, and off late NC has been no different.&lt;br /&gt;I expect people will give a positive mandate to a party which they feel is at least able to take care of and be sensitive to their emotions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Which are the safe pockets of PDP in the state?&lt;br /&gt;(Laughs) why should I tell you? Because everybody is ganged up against us. But inshallah, I hope we would do much better than 2002.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Mehbooba Mufti next CM of J&amp;amp;K?&lt;br /&gt;I’m on fast today and it is prohibited to lie. Otherwise also I don’t lie due to which I’m not liked by some people. I’ve never had a desire or an ambition of becoming a CM. If we go through the history, Mufti Sahib has been the best CM of the state. By the grace of God, when and if elections take place and we get a chance, there should be no confusion that who will be our CM. It would be Mufti Sahib. He is a visionary and we need a leader like him.&lt;br /&gt;(The interview is part of series on mainstream and separatist leadership)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-1031624207369189424?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/1031624207369189424/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=1031624207369189424' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/1031624207369189424'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/1031624207369189424'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2008/09/it-is-muslim-jammu-kashmir-versus-hindu.html' title='‘It is Muslim Jammu Kashmir versus Hindu India’'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-7903422058787975911</id><published>2008-09-02T05:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-02T05:08:56.007-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Elections under UN supervision are never possible</title><content type='html'>Whosoever is interested in resolution of Kashmir issue must come forward for a dialogue with New Delhi as there are no tailor-made solutions available. Prime Minister of India invited Hurriyat Conference for a dialogue, but thereafter you can’t expect every time invitation from a PM. State Congress president and Union Water Resources Minister, PROF SAIF-UD-DIN SOZ in an exclusive interview with GK senior correspondent ZULFIKAR MAJID talks about demilitarization, ensuing assembly polls and has a word of advice for Hurriyat to participate in the forthcoming election to show their representative character. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: As state Congress president, how do you view the present political crisis in the state?&lt;br /&gt; It was an unfortunate situation. It shouldn’t have happened. You must know that best of the governor rule is hardly comparable to any civilian government, whatever its nature. A bad civilian government is far better than competent governor rule. Mr. N.N Vohra is a competent person and a very good administrator. But I can tell you that governor rule creates barrier. When there is civilian government, people meet ministers. There is fundamental difference between the two administrations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Is it a political crisis?&lt;br /&gt;No it is nothing new. But governor rule could have been avoided.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Who is to be blamed?&lt;br /&gt;Withdrawal of support (by PDP) was deplorable. But I don’t want to sound bitter. It was their choice, they did it. I call it deplorable because differences could be sorted out. They had given deadline of June 30 and there was no point withdrawing on 29th. It was unfortunate. But now we have to move forward as we can’t live in bitterness in political arena. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Mainstream parties over the years claimed that normalcy in the state has returned and also claimed credit for that. Recent uprising has dented those claims to an extent. What is Congress’s view now?&lt;br /&gt;Kashmir is normal with patches of abnormalcy. It happens. The kind of situation that was on ground after land question blunted the process of normalcy for a period of time. But now, normalcy has returned. I addressed several rallies in Kupwara district. People want redressal of their problems. &lt;br /&gt;It isn’t kind of turmoil what we witnessed in 1990’s. But recent uprising against the request of the Shrine Board for land certainly created some uproar. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: During SASB land transfer issue, Congress initially stated that no decision has been taken to allot the land? Why did you later on change your stand?&lt;br /&gt;Neither had land been transferred, nor had that been cancelled. There was a request from SASB and that was in process— that land would be granted for raising temporary structures. So when people thought it wasn’t correct, state government decided to give facilities and amenities to the yatries themselves. Governor also felt that and withdrew the request as state government was in a far better position to provide facilities to the yatries than the SASB.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: But there was a cabinet decision in this regard which was later withdrawn?&lt;br /&gt;Rightly so, because people found this was unusual and wasn’t needed. Government considered it and simultaneously the request of the governor that since the government can offer the facilities in far better way, so he withdrew the earlier request. When the request was withdrawn, earlier cabinet decision became redundant. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: After the recent uprising, the activities of mainstream political parties have come to a standstill. Reasons?&lt;br /&gt;I addressed several big rallies in Kupwara (on Saturday). The response of people was massive. So I don’t think there has been much difference. Yes, I admit recent agitation ascended the temper. Who will say no? But now everything is on track. People want their problems addressed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Will there be any effect of election boycott of Hurriyat?&lt;br /&gt;I don’t think people will boycott elections. In villages there won’t be any boycott. What will people of Kashmir get out of boycott? We had so many boycotts, nothing positive happened. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Often both state and central government statements suggest that there are few hundred militants present in the state but still there is huge presence of troops. Do you advocate for demilitarization?&lt;br /&gt; I’ve never used this expression, demilitarization. Those people who raise this issue never explain what they mean by the demilitarization. We must know that Army general will never consult any politician about where a Jawan has to be posted? &lt;br /&gt;But in the meantime people like me have very vigorously been talking to Defense Ministry. So many reforms have already taken place. Rent of the land which Army is occupying has been raised thrice. So many places have been vacated. I raised the issue with Defence Ministry that school buildings, industrial estates must be vacated and barracks should be constructed for Army. So many places have been vacated. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: But do you think that presence of huge number of troops is needed to fight a few hundred militants?&lt;br /&gt;That is the bigger question and not for me to answer. It is Pakistan-India question. Kashmir passed through long spell of armed militancy comparable to any worst situation in the world. So it was a kind of a war and the militancy was sponsored by the neighboring country. At this point of time I won’t say that Pakistan government is behind this now, because in Pakistan also it has impacted adversely. When it is totally peaceful, Army isn’t needed, but it isn’t so. Some people say this enormous Army is here. If India and Pakistan become friends, I’m sure there won’t be presence of troops. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Do you mean that Army isn’t here fighting militants only, but it is the threat of Pakistan?&lt;br /&gt;Whole world knows that militancy in Kashmir was sponsored by Pakistan. I won’t deny that local support was there. It was a situation of war. Now in that context it isn’t for me to say how much of Army should be there nor can neighboring country say you have this much of Army. It is question of security. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Who represents the people of J&amp;K, separatists or mainstream parties?&lt;br /&gt;Those who are in the assembly or in the government, I accept them as representatives. But simultaneously Hurriyat Conference speaks for the people in their own right. They also represent a shade of the opinion. But if they say they have to represent people and raise voice on their behalf, whole world will say there is only one test. You have to accept the elections. Somebody can go to Lal Chowk and say he/she is the leader, but mere assertions can’t make anybody a leader. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: But Hurriyat says they will participate in elections if it is held under the supervision of United Nations or any other credible international organization.&lt;br /&gt;That is not possible. You must know what is pragmatic. When elections are fair you can’t merely say UN will come forward. Even UN isn’t interested in that. It can never happen to my mind elections would be held under UN supervision.   &lt;br /&gt;I don’t advice Hurriyat and others to participate in the elections. It is for them to decide. But If they want to be accepted as sole representatives, the test is vote.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Has Hurriyat Conference any role to play in the resolution of Kashmir issue?&lt;br /&gt;Why not. I was a votary of a very vigorous dialogue between Hurriyat and New Delhi. I was instrumental in that at some point of time. So they must talk to New Delhi and vice-versa. They must talk to Prime Minister or anybody on behalf of him because dialogue is the only solution of problem. Politics under the shadow of gun is suicidal to the society.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: One faction of Hurriyat was engaged in talks with New Delhi for four years. Now they say that talks yielded nothing as New Delhi isn’t ready to show any flexibility.&lt;br /&gt;See, Prime Minister invited them. But thereafter you can’t expect every time invitation from PM. Through you I convey it to Hurriyat that there are sometimes complaints that dialogue process wasn’t vigorous. But it wasn’t because of India; it was because of Pakistan. Prime Minister of India at one point of time was willing to go to Pakistan. But General Mushraf at that time suggested to the PM that you please don’t come for now because Pakistan unfortunately got into a situation of turmoil, confrontation between judiciary and executive. So we never imagined it can snowball into a major deadlock. &lt;br /&gt; There was instability writ large on the horizons of Pakistan. So it adversely affected the dialogue process. Yet the dialogue was going on very slowly. It wasn’t suspended completely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Do you offer an invitation to Hurriyat for a fresh round of talks with New Delhi?&lt;br /&gt;Who am I to offer an invitation? But Prime Minister of India invited them at one point of time. So I say whosoever is interested in resolution of crisis must come forward for a dialogue. There are no tailor-made solutions available as it will evolve out of dialogue and dialogue is the only basis which they have to accept. Gun is no solution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Does Congress accept Kashmir as a disputed territory?&lt;br /&gt;You may call it disputed or not but the point is mainstream has to get strengthened. As long as there is separatism, there is political imbroglio. Yes there are issues between India and Pakistan, who can deny it. It is a political stalemate, imbroglio which has to be resolved, people have to come and join the mainstream. Whatever issues have to be raised, must be raised with New Delhi. India may not agree on a tripartite dialogue, but bilateral dialogue between New Delhi and Islamabad, New Delhi and Srinagar. Dialogue can go on both axis at a same time and there is no harm in that. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Talking of elections, have you finalized the list of candidates for the upcoming polls?&lt;br /&gt;Not yet, we shall have a committee. But there is no big dispute about candidates. We know our candidates on fingertips.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: What will be Congress’s manifesto for 2008 elections?&lt;br /&gt;Peace and development and restoration of normalcy are big goals and we shall work for them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Do you advocate for autonomy to J&amp;K?&lt;br /&gt;I’ve been champion of autonomy and that stand I’ve not given up. But when I talked about autonomy, it was my slogan. It was painful situation in my heart and mind to see Kashmiris being killed. I became conscious of it in 1990 when some people wanted merger with Pakistan, others wanted independence. I imagined I must work for Kashmir. Achievable goal was autonomy. &lt;br /&gt;But today, I’ve a bigger goal than autonomy. I want a rigorous dialogue between India and Pakistan, between New Delhi and Kashmir and that dialogue itself can lead to an acceptable solution. When parties talk and talk and talk, they ultimately come to find a middle ground.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Will Congress enter into a coalition with NC before or after the polls? Recently you talked about it.&lt;br /&gt;No, I was misinterpreted because those people who heard me didn’t know anything. I was quoting Bashir Bader’s couplet (Dushmani jam kar karo, par itni gunjaish rahe phir se jab hum dost ho jayen, tou sharmanda na ho). Then I quoted the example of Bakshi Sahib and Sheikh Sahib. &lt;br /&gt; Today I want to tell you that in politics anything is possible. In politics there are no permanent enemies and no permanent friends. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: That means there is also chance of collaboration with your old ally PDP?&lt;br /&gt;I had not that time meant PDP is out and Congress is going to NC. These things aren’t so simple. You have to have right arithmetic at right time. I’ll give my opinion to Sonia Gandhi at right time, so will other leaders. Today, I can’t see that PDP is in and NC is out or vice-versa. At this point of time I feel I must promote Congress to the best of my abilities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: In the recent vote of confidence in Parliament both NC and PDP voted in favour of UPA government? Do you think both parties want to keep central Congress leadership happy?&lt;br /&gt;It isn’t making happy anybody. It is a situation in which you have to select one party. They found they couldn’t go with NDA, so they went with democratic secular force. May be they also thought nuclear deal was in favor of country.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: When should the elections be held in the state? &lt;br /&gt;On time. If not October, then November.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Do you think situation is conducive for the elections in October or November?&lt;br /&gt;That will be seen. Perhaps Jammu situation isn’t appearing good this time. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Azad and you were claiming till the last moment that you have the required number in the Assembly. Then what went wrong? &lt;br /&gt;Basic assurance came from Azad Sahib. He was confident and I was sharing his confidence. But it happens. Recently we showed we made numbers in Parliament. Earlier in 1999 BJP would say they had numbers, but they fell short by one.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: When former Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad withdrew confidence motion in assembly, he said that members from opposition parties wished to vote in favour of Congress, but he doesn’t want to put them in trouble as they might have to go against the party whip. Who were those MLAs?&lt;br /&gt;Nobody knows. Only Azad Sahib knows and this question can be put straight to him. We were confident, but numbers weren’t there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Which are the safe pockets of Congress in the state?&lt;br /&gt;We are trying hard. But somebody will say that Congress is less acceptable and PDP or NC is more, I don’t think so. Many factors are there. The people of J&amp;K will vote for sincere and honest candidates. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: In a recent interview with GK, NC president Omar Abdullah said that New Delhi wants to create one leader in every mohalla of Kashmir to create confusion. Your take on this?&lt;br /&gt;He should mention one among those leaders. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Prof Soz, the next CM of J&amp;K? &lt;br /&gt;I don’t have an answer to this question. It would be decided by the party legislature that time. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Are you in the race?&lt;br /&gt;It is party high command that decides and my ambitions remain under control. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: As union Water Resources Minister, what have you done to restore the glory of Dal, Wullar and other water bodies of Kashmir?&lt;br /&gt;Water Resources ministry doesn’t have charge of lakes and rivers, so I couldn’t have done much. But as Environment minister earlier, I did get a project of Rs 300 crores for Dal. The whole money couldn’t be spent and whatever little money was there, it was misappropriated.&lt;br /&gt;Actually it is a gigantic task. It can neither be done under court orders nor by government alone. Peoples’ involvement is needed. &lt;br /&gt;(The interview is part of a series on mainstream and separatist leadership)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Greater Kashmir Op-Ed Page, July 30, 2008)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-7903422058787975911?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/7903422058787975911/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=7903422058787975911' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/7903422058787975911'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/7903422058787975911'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2008/09/elections-under-un-supervision-are.html' title='Elections under UN supervision are never possible'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-8061737319316071901</id><published>2008-09-02T05:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-02T05:04:57.390-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I believe in promises that can be kept</title><content type='html'>ACROSS THE TABLE&lt;br /&gt;Any claims of normalcy are premature. New Delhi wants to have one leader in every mohalla of Kashmir to create confusion. National Conference president OMAR ABDULLAH in an exclusive interview talks to GK senior correspondent ZULFIKAR MAJID about the present political scenario in the J&amp;K, party’s strategy in coming elections.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: As president of opposition party how do you view present political crisis in the state?&lt;br /&gt; I wouldn’t call it a political crisis. If there would have few years to go for elections and governor’s rule was imposed, then it would have been so. Anyways elections were due in October and, therefore I don’t see it as a crisis. &lt;br /&gt; In first week of August anyway election code of conduct would have been in place, so in essence we lost three weeks. Yes, state government should have avoided it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Who is to be blamed for the present political instability?&lt;br /&gt; Alliance partners Congress and Peoples Democratic Party who were unable to work together. But lions share of the blame must go to the PDP. They were the party to the decision (transfer of 800 kanals of forest land to SASB) but when they saw public anger they opposed the decision. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Separatists and PDP blame NC for creating SASB. How would you defend your party?&lt;br /&gt; The problem wasn’t with SASB, but with allocation of land. If problem was the creation of SASB, then protests would have been held in 2000. Why did the protests start only in 2000? Did you see any of the protesters shouting against SASB? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Mainstream parties over the years claimed that normalcy in the state has returned and also claimed credit for that. Recent uprising has dented those claims to an extent. What is NC’s view now?&lt;br /&gt; I can’t talk about other parties, but NC never claimed that normalcy has returned. There are regular encounters between militants and security forces. I regularly get information from my colleagues about movement of the militants. One reads about infiltration having gone up.&lt;br /&gt; Politically also the climate gives us some cause of concern. There is no way that I will claim normalcy has returned. Any claims of normalcy are premature. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Often both state and central government statements suggest that there are few hundred militants present in the state. But still there is huge presence of troops. Do you advocate for demilitarization.&lt;br /&gt; Since they claim that infiltration is less, there statistics show violence is less, there statistics show that the number of militants are less, therefore there is case to be made for reducing the number of troops. But together state and central government have not been able to make any forward movement. There were loud noises of demilitarization, but it didn’t happen. It is part and parcel of the deceit that the coalition government carried out with the people here. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Who is real representative of people of J&amp;K. Mainstream parties or separatists? &lt;br /&gt; No one can claim. Even the separatists can’t represent entire political structure of Kashmir. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: But recent mass uprising was the brainchild of separatists?&lt;br /&gt; Recent uprising wasn’t there creation, but it was people’s anger against land transfer decision. It wasn’t something they had done, they grabbed it. If it would have something they had done, they wouldn’t have been forced to run their political activities from the mosques from last few years. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Do you mean that separatists don’t have representative character?&lt;br /&gt; No, I didn’t say that. I said they don’t completely represent. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Then who can talk on behalf of people of J&amp;K?&lt;br /&gt; All of us. If I can go to Pakistan, so can they, if I can go to Delhi, so can they. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Has Hurriyat conference a role to play in the K-issue?&lt;br /&gt; Hurriyat Conference has a role to play. I don’t think it is either for you or for me to decide who has how much of a role. We have to accept that like Hurriyat, the NC, PDP, etc have representative character in J&amp;K and a role to play. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Do you mean that you can share the platform with separatists for the resolution of K-issue?&lt;br /&gt; Why not. Some conferences we attend together. I have no problems in attending meetings with them. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Do you think people follow you. If you will call for a strike like Hurriyat, will it have any impact? &lt;br /&gt; It is a hypothetical question. If we give a call then we will see. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Your father and NC patron Dr Farooq Abdullah was out of state when Kashmir was burning on SASB land transfer issue. Your say.&lt;br /&gt; He had anyways plans to go out. I’m the president of the party and it was my responsibility to see the party through the tough situation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Out of power you people talk about human rights violations. But in power your father and former chief minister once said that there isn’t enough space in jails for the militants, so kill them.&lt;br /&gt; (Grew angry). No independent and impartial person will be able to produce the record that he (Dr Farooq) has said kill all the people in the jails. This is the problem with journalism. You people put words in the mouth of others so they utter it. At no point of time he has said kill all the people in jails. But you will publish this as part of your question and people will start believing it. Base the questions on facts. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Number of times from 1996-2002, Dr Farooq urged the central government to bombard Pakistani Kashmir and destroy militant camp? &lt;br /&gt; Are you asking me about Dr Abdullah’s statement or asking about party statement. NC as a party has never condoned HR violations, we have always condemned them. In Pathribal and other incidents enquires were ordered by the NC government. Whether in government or out of it, NC will never condone HR violations. &lt;br /&gt; We didn’t make tall promises and then not fulfilled them. We never went to the people and tell them we will give you healing touch and then killed them. We never said that we will disband the SOG and then allow SOG to run as they like. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: NC lost its strongholds like Ganderbal to PDP in 2002. Any special strategy to get it back.&lt;br /&gt; We aren’t going to disclose our strategy. Our strategy will be based on finding right candidates and going to the people with the message that we will deliver and hope that people will repose faith in NC. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Have you finalized the list of candidates for 2008 elections?&lt;br /&gt; There will be some new faces and some old faces. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: In 1996, NC fought elections with restoration of autonomy as main issue. What will be NC’s manifesto for 2008 elections?&lt;br /&gt; Our political slogans don’t change with time (with reference to PDP). We are not like political parties who change their slogans from time to time. We continue to believe that restoration of autonomous Jammu and Kashmir where Union of India is responsible only for a select list of subjects is the idle solution which is applicable for both sides of Kashmir. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: You mean to say that autonomy is the only solution to K-issue? &lt;br /&gt; I didn’t say the only, but I said the best solution. Others may come up with other solutions. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: But your autonomy proposal was rejected by then Atal Baehari Vajpayee led NDA government in 2000 of which you were a minister. &lt;br /&gt; So what. How does it matter? United Nations has rejected your resolutions applicable to Kashmir. Not anybody less than the secretary general of the UN has rejected all Security Council resolutions pertaining to Kashmir. Has anybody in the Hurriyat Conference said we will stop talking about the SC resolutions? One rejection doesn’t mean that we stop talks. Yes, the NDA government didn’t respond the way they should have. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: In 2002 despite being the single largest party NC remained in opposition. If in coming elections you again can’t get majority, will you seek support either form PDP or Congress to form the government.&lt;br /&gt; I’m not in the business of answering hypothetical questions. Let the people decide what sort of assembly they want, then the NC will decide. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: State Congress president, Prof Saif-ud-Din Soz recently indicated that his party wants to make good relations with NC.&lt;br /&gt; There is no dialogue going on with the Congress party. The Congress party has made its decisions known when they sent an aeroplane with a joint director of the IB to Mehbooba Mufti for a meeting. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Former RAW chief AS Dualt recently said that Omar Abdullah would be new CM.&lt;br /&gt; Fortunately or unfortunately AS Dualt has no official position and therefore as any citizen of this country he is entitled to an opinion. It is nothing more than an opinion of one individual out of more than one billion people. I wouldn’t attach too much importance to that statement. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: When should be elections held in the state after the imposition of Governor’s rule?&lt;br /&gt; As early as possible. We were hoping that the possibility of elections immediately after Amarnath Yatra and before Ramzan if possible. But that is unlikely now. We want as soon Eid is over elections should be held. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: There is a feeling that NC was lenient towards Congress and harsh towards PDP during last six years. &lt;br /&gt; Yes that is true. Simply because PDP’s politics is based on political vendetta, Congress party’s isn’t. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Is PDP a local threat to NC?&lt;br /&gt; Congress is threat to NC in both Jammu and Kashmir. But Congress doesn’t run its politics on the basis of political vendetta like PDP. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: When former chief minister Ghulam Nabi Azad withdrew confidence motion in assembly on Monday he said that members from opposition parties wish to vote in favour of Congress, but he doesn’t want to put them in trouble as they might have to go against party whip. Were any of your MLAs going to vote against the whip?&lt;br /&gt; He (Azad) never said it that he doesn’t want to put opposition members in trouble. I was in the assembly. What he said was that he doesn’t want to put some members into trouble. There was absolutely no problem with NC members. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Which are the safe pockets of NC in the state?&lt;br /&gt; That you will come to know when results of 2008 elections are declared. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Will you contest from Ganderbal constituency?&lt;br /&gt; Again you will know that when the party announces its mandate. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: What is the manifesto of NC this time?&lt;br /&gt; Again you will know when we will release it. Obviously there will be political, social and economical aspect. It will be based on realistic promises, you won’t see promises like two jobs to each family, etc etc, because these aren’t the realistic promises. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: But you have recently promised one job for each family.&lt;br /&gt; No, I haven’t. I have said that we will first seek to give jobs to those households where there is no employed. We have also said that we are looking for possibility of giving stipend to educated unemployed youth who go into training programmes with ITI and others. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Senior NC leader Ali Muhammad Sagar recently said that New Delhi is creating confusion in Kashmir by creating smaller political parties.&lt;br /&gt; These aren’t Sagar Sahib’s words. These are late Sheikh Abdullah Sahib’s words. He had warned people of Kashmir that New Delhi wants to create one leader in every mohalla. And that is what they are doing. Some people can’t win a seat outside their own assembly constituency and they are being projected as leaders of Kashmir. There is an effort made to dilute the voice of the people here by creating more and more so-called leaders here &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Is NC target of both New Delhi and Islamabad? &lt;br /&gt; Fortunately for NC we have very good relations with Islamabad and very cordial relations with the New Delhi and therefore I would say that we are not target of both. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: But in the last 19-years of conflict NC has lost most number of workers and leaders. Reasons.&lt;br /&gt; Because the separatists view the NC biggest threat. It isn’t New Delhi or Islamabad. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Greater Kashmir Op-Ed Page, July 24, 2008)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-8061737319316071901?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/8061737319316071901/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=8061737319316071901' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/8061737319316071901'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/8061737319316071901'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2008/09/i-believe-in-promises-that-can-be-kept.html' title='I believe in promises that can be kept'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-165607226887587500</id><published>2008-09-02T05:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-02T05:02:12.415-07:00</updated><title type='text'>LAKHS PRAY FOR FREEDOM</title><content type='html'>ZULFIKAR MAJID&lt;br /&gt;Srinagar, Aug 22: At least a million people today prayed for freedom of Kashmir in the historic Eidgah ground here, affirming their support to the united pro-freedom leadership.&lt;br /&gt;It seemed that all roads of the Valley were leading to Eidgah, with thousands of vehicles including trucks, buses, mini-buses, sumos, cars and motorcycles ferrying people, who were holding black and green flags, from different parts of the Valley.&lt;br /&gt;The Eidgah chalo call was given by Coordination Committee led by two factions of Hurriyat Conference besides various pro-freedom parties, social, religious and trade organizations.&lt;br /&gt;This show of strength by the pro-freedom leaders came after the march to Muzaffarabad on August 11, Pampore on August 16 and the rally outside the United Nations office here on August 18.&lt;br /&gt;Senior leaders- Syed Ali Shah Geelani, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq and Muhammad Yasin Malik- couldn’t address the people due to the breakdown of public address system.&lt;br /&gt;However, speaking loudly from the podium, Mirwaiz Umar appealed the people to observe complete strike on Saturday and Sunday, followed by Lal Chowk chalo march on Monday.&lt;br /&gt;“People of Kashmir have given their verdict that they want freedom. They have spoken what they stand for. People have only one voice and one dream, which is complete Azadi,” Mirwaiz said, amid massive sloganeering by the people. &lt;br /&gt;“Today’s show has shown that nation is united. This unprecedented show of unity would lead us to our destination. Leadership is united and so are the people. Today, we have not assembled here under the banner of any sect, political party or region, but under the banner of La Illaha Ilallah Muhammad Rasool Allah (SAW),” he added.&lt;br /&gt;He appealed the people to show the same unity in future also. “Be united and don’t give those people any space in your ranks who want to create confusion,” he appealed. &lt;br /&gt;Talking to Greater Kashmir, Geelani termed today’s gathering as biggest in the history of Kashmir. “This was the biggest gathering in the history of Kashmir and it conveys that people want complete freedom. The writing on the wall is clear for India that people of Kashmir want Azadi. It was a referendum.”&lt;br /&gt;“If India claims to be largest democracy of the world, it should open its eyes, withdraw its troops from Kashmir and give Kashmiris right to self-determination,” he said. &lt;br /&gt;Geelani alleged that state’s role in Jammu and Kashmir is discriminatory. “In Jammu, police shows restraint. But here they kill. Administration has been communalized,” he alleged. &lt;br /&gt;The veteran pro-freedom leader congratulated the people of Kashmir for their steadfastness. He appealed UN Secretary General, Ban Ki Moon, to intervene in the state immediately. “Especially, we appeal to UN to intervene in Jammu where Muslims are being targeted by the Hindu fanatics.”&lt;br /&gt;He appealed the people to maintain discipline during the rallies. “People should maintain utmost discipline during the rallies and especially near the podium,” he said.&lt;br /&gt;Both Geelani and Mirwaiz said that future programme would be announced on Monday at Lal Chowk ‘where a peaceful sit-in would be held.’&lt;br /&gt;This was for the first time in the history of Kashmir that lakhs of people joined the Friday congregation at Eidgah, where only Eid prayers were being held in the past.&lt;br /&gt;Before offering Friday prayers, the pro-freedom leaders visited the grave of Shiekh Abdul Aziz who was killed in police firing on August 11 at Chahal (Uri) while leading a march towards Muzaffarabad. &lt;br /&gt;JKLF chairman, Muhammad Yasin Malik, who reached Eidgah early alongwith thousands people was seen addressing the crowd before the prayers.&lt;br /&gt;Other leaders who were present at Eidgah included Amir-e-Jamaat-e-Islami Sheikh Muhammad Hassan, Jamiat-e-Ihlihadees president Moulana Showkat, senior pro-freedom leaders Shabir Ahmad Shah, Nayeem Ahmad Khan, Moulana Abbas Ansari, Aga Syed Hassan, Azam Inqalabi, Shahid-ul-Islam, Saleem Nanaji, Javed Ahmad Mir, Mushtaq-ul-Islam, Shakeel Ahmad Bakshi.&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, most masjids in the city and its outskirts remained closed as people joined the Eidgah Friday congregation. &lt;br /&gt;For the first time after the 1993 siege of Hazratbal shrine, Friday prayers were not offered at the holiest Muslim shrine in Kashmir. The Hazratbal masjid houses the relic of Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Reports said that the Imam of the shrine had gone along with the people to offer prayers at Eidgah.&lt;br /&gt;Almost all the masjids, including the Gaw Kadal masjid, where thousands offer prayers every Friday, in the civil lines and other areas in the city remained closed.&lt;br /&gt;However, Friday prayers were held in some masjids in the civil lines but the number of prayers was very less. After the prayers, these people also left for Eidgah.&lt;br /&gt;Similar situation was witnessed in other masjids in the outskirts.&lt;br /&gt;Hurriyat (G) clarifies&lt;br /&gt;Hurriyat Conference (G) leader, Masarat Alam, today said the people should not get confused by the posters issued by the Tehreek-e-Hurriyat, which call for a march to Eidgah on August 24. “This time we urge people to follow only the decisions of the coordination committee,” he said. &lt;br /&gt;Reports said the party had printed the posters for a rally before the unity efforts between the Hurriyat factions, but their distribution created some confusion. “There would be no Eidgah chalo on August 24, but Lal Chowk chalo on August 25.”&lt;br /&gt;Alam said the party has been receiving information from various districts that Army had barred people from visiting Eidgah on Friday. “We strongly condemn such actions,” he said.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-165607226887587500?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/165607226887587500/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=165607226887587500' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/165607226887587500'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/165607226887587500'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2008/09/lakhs-pray-for-freedom.html' title='LAKHS PRAY FOR FREEDOM'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-3000112673177614529</id><published>2008-09-02T04:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-02T04:54:38.672-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Geelani, Mirwaiz, Malik released</title><content type='html'>ZULFIKAR MAJID&lt;br /&gt;Srinagar, Sep 1: Eight days after their arrest and no whereabouts, three top pro-freedom leaders – chairmen of Hurriyat Conference factions, Syed Ali Shah Geelani and Mirwaiz Umar Farooq and JKLF chief Muhammad Yasin Malik– were released Monday evening.&lt;br /&gt;Sources said that Geelani was brought to his Hyderpora residence Monday evening by a posse of policemen and then shifted to Sher-e-Kashmir Institute of Medical Sciences (SKIMS) for medical checkup.&lt;br /&gt;Confirming release of Geelani, Inspector General Police, Kashmir Range, S M Sahai said, “We have released Geelani,” Sahai said.&lt;br /&gt;Director SKIMS, Dr Abdul Hamid Zarger confirmed that Geelani was brought to the hospital for a checkup. “He was brought here at 7:30 pm and we would keep him under observation for a day or so and then we can assess his health condition,” Dr Zarger told Greater Kashmir. &lt;br /&gt;A top medico in SKIMS on the condition of anonymity said that Geelani was suffering from some cardiac problems.&lt;br /&gt;Mirwaiz’s secretary, advocate Shahid-ul-Islam confirmed that Mirwaiz has reached his Nigeen residence. “He reached home at 7:30 pm,” he said.&lt;br /&gt;JKLF spokesman, Ashraf-Ibn-Salam said that officially it has been announced that Malik has been released. “But he hasn’t reached home till 8:30 pm,” he said.&lt;br /&gt;While Geelani was arrested from his Hyderpora residence ahead of Lal Chowk Chalo march on the intervening night of August 24 and 25, Mirwaiz was arrested same night from his Nigeen residence. Malik was arrested at Maisuma on August 25 morning when he tried to march towards Lal Chowk.&lt;br /&gt;There was no news about Hurriyat (M) leader Shabir Ahmad Shah, Hurriyat (G) leaders Muhammad Ashraf Sehrai, Masrat Alam Bhat, Ayaz Akbar, Dukhtran-e-Milat chief, Syeda Asiya Andrabi, Islamic Students League leader, Shakeel Bakshi, Tehreek-e-Hurriyat leader, Mejraj-ud-Din Kalwal and other arrested leaders in the past one-week.&lt;br /&gt;While Asiya and Kalwal have been already booked under Public Safety Act (PSA) – that provides for detention without trial for up to two years – sources said that Shabir Shah and Ashraf Sehrai were booked under PSA on Monday.&lt;br /&gt;Andrabi and Shah have been instrumental in promoting unity between two factions of Hurriyat, who had parted ways in 2003. &lt;br /&gt;The crackdown on pro-freedom leadership came in the backdrop of their proposed Lal Chowk Chalo march on August 24. &lt;br /&gt;Earlier, pro-freedom leaders had shown their strength by mobilizing lakhs of people in the march to Muzaffarabad on August 11, Pampore on August 16, rally outside the United Nations office here on August 18 and Eidgah on August 22.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-3000112673177614529?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/3000112673177614529/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=3000112673177614529' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/3000112673177614529'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/3000112673177614529'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2008/09/geelani-mirwaiz-malik-released.html' title='Geelani, Mirwaiz, Malik released'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-8800988108745738369</id><published>2008-09-02T04:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-02T04:51:27.413-07:00</updated><title type='text'>KASHMIR CRIES FOR FREEDOM</title><content type='html'>ZULFIKAR MAJID&lt;br /&gt;Srinagar, August 18: Undeterred by reports of curfew in the morning, lakhs of people from all over Kashmir converged in the TRC Ground in the city’s high security zone on Monday to demand freedom. &lt;br /&gt;Pledging to take the ongoing movement to its logical conclusion, pro-freedom leadership across the board Monday urged intervention of international community and asked New Delhi to ‘read the writing on the wall’ and solve the Kashmir issue according to the aspirations of the people of the Jammu and Kashmir. People from all walks of life and all towns and villages of the Valley reached the TRC Ground and upto 11 am the ground was full with the people. Outside the ground, lakhs more were on the roads.&lt;br /&gt;The leadership pledged before the people, “Till we get freedom, this movement would continue. We also urge the international community, particularly United Nations, to intervene in Kashmir.”&lt;br /&gt;First to address the mammoth gathering was Mirwaiz Umar Farooq and JKLF chairman Muhammad Yasin Malik, who reached early. Mirwaiz and Malik asked New Delhi to accept the demands of people including the right to self-determination. &lt;br /&gt;For near about 10 minutes people responded with zest to slogans raised by Mirwaiz including “we want freedom, hamari mandi, Rawalpindi.” &lt;br /&gt;Mirwaiz read aloud the memorandum which was to be presented to UN office, seeking right to self-determination and then spelled out demands including opening of Muzaffarabad and other trade routes with AJK and Pakistan, revocation of draconian laws including Armed Forces Special Powers Act and release of all detainees. &lt;br /&gt;He said government of India should comply with these demands of people and should show eagerness in addressing the larger Kashmir issue. People during the speech were calmly listening and responding and applauding him.  Flanked by other leaders, Mirwaiz said resolution of Kashmir issue was must. “Till New Delhi won’t settle the Kashmir issue according to the aspirations of Kashmiris, peaceful struggle would continue.”&lt;br /&gt;“Our struggle is peaceful. We urge the Indian people who believe in humanity and democracy to assess how brutally its troops are killing unarmed Kashmiri protesters,” he urged.  &lt;br /&gt;“Marches to Pampore and UN office, which remained peaceful despite the participation of lakhs of people, has made it clear to the world that the people of Kashmir are peace loving,” Mirwaiz maintained &lt;br /&gt;Hurriyat Conference (G) chairman, Syed Ali Shah Geelani, who arrived later, urged UN secretary general Ban Ki Moon to personally visit Kashmir and “see what people of Kashmir want?”&lt;br /&gt;“Our demand is that Indian troops should leave the state and UN troops should be deployed here and then plebiscite should be held. When this demand is met, all the problems would be solved,” Geelani said.&lt;br /&gt;The veteran pro-freedom leader urged the UN to send its troops to “protect the Muslims of Jammu and Kashmir, who are being killed by the Indian troops.”&lt;br /&gt;He also urged the international media to visit Kashmir to highlight the plight of the people. “Indian media is part of war machinery. They aren’t projecting the facts. We urge media from USA, Europe and other countries to come here and see what people of J&amp;K want. They want right to self-determination.”&lt;br /&gt;Geelani urged the people to carry forward the movement on three points. “One is Islam as a complete way of life, second is complete freedom from the clutches of India and unity on the lines of Islam. You have to pledge that you would work on these three points peacefully,” he urged. Lakhs responded with “certainly.”&lt;br /&gt;He welcomed the resignation of Pakistani president, General Parvez Musharaf saying, “I want to give you a happy news that the man who caused major damage to Kashmir cause during the past eight years has gone as he was rejected by the people of Pakistan. Pakistani General (Musharaf) did extensive damage to Kashmir cause, Pakistan and Islamic community. But I remind it to the Pakistani rulers that Pakistan has been created in the name of Islam. Socialism, Secularism and Nationalism won’t work in Pakistan.”&lt;br /&gt;“We are Pakistanis and Pakistan is ours because we are tied with the country through Islam,” he roared, as the crowd cheered him and chanted, “Hum Pakistani hain, Pakistan hamara hai” (We are Pakistanis, Pakistan is ours).&lt;br /&gt;Yasin Malik in his speech vowed that the peaceful struggle would continue till “we achieve complete freedom.”&lt;br /&gt;“The sea of people has assembled here despite restrictions by the government. Everybody present here is demanding plebiscite. It is a people’s revolution and it would lead us to complete freedom,” Malik said.&lt;br /&gt;“Our united demand is opening of all trade routes with AJK, Pakistan and safety of Muslims of Jammu from the communal forces,” he demanded.&lt;br /&gt;Amid slogans like “Issi saal lenge azadi, Uss paar be lange, iss paar be lange, azadi”, the JKLF chairman pledged that they wouldn’t allow anybody to break the unity.&lt;br /&gt;“Our path and goal has to be one,” he vowed.&lt;br /&gt;Malik said the people of the state will not allow anybody to weaken the struggle for which more than a lakh have sacrificed their lives.&lt;br /&gt;Senior Hurriyat leaders Shabir Ahmad Shah and Nayeem Ahmad Khan also addressed the people.&lt;br /&gt;“We pledge today that till we won’t get freedom, this movement would continue,” they pledged. &lt;br /&gt;Earlier, hundreds of trucks and buses overflowing with protesters - some sitting on roofs and hanging out of windows arrived at the venue from Srinagar and all districts and tehsils besides other far-flung and remote areas.&lt;br /&gt;The TRC Ground, Moulana Azad road, Residency road, Dalgate road, Lal Chowk and other adjoining areas were full of people, who were raising pro-freedom, anti-India and pro-Pakistan slogans.&lt;br /&gt;Locals were distributing food, fruits and water among the processionists.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-8800988108745738369?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/8800988108745738369/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=8800988108745738369' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/8800988108745738369'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/8800988108745738369'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2008/09/kashmir-cries-for-freedom.html' title='KASHMIR CRIES FOR FREEDOM'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4526559805344918472.post-4042921007643054298</id><published>2007-11-12T04:29:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-01-11T04:32:09.392-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Dardpora’s orphan girls don’t get grooms</title><content type='html'>&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Kashmir Tragedy&lt;br /&gt;ZULFIKAR MAJID&lt;br /&gt;Dardpora (Kupwara), Dec 9:&lt;/strong&gt; Nearly a hundred girls who lost their fathers in militancy-related incidents in this north Kashmir hamlet are of marriageable age but there is nobody to take care of them. The village has lost 300 of its men in the last 18 years.&lt;br /&gt; “Dozens of orphaned girls here are waiting for grooms, but nobody is ready to marry these helpless girls. They live in pathetic conditions; I fear that if immediate steps are not taken, it’ll bring a catastrophe,” Mir Ghulam Rasool Dardpori, a social activist of the area told Greater Kashmir.&lt;br /&gt; Quoting an example, he said, last year a girl, aged 30, “came to me and sought my help in getting married.” Her father, the only breadwinner of the family had been killed by the Army 15 years ago. “She told me that if nobody comes to her help she would be forced to take some wrong step. With the help of some village elders, we managed something for her, but such cases are in huge number here,” Rasool rued.&lt;br /&gt; His views were shared by Naseema Begum, the widow of Qasim Khoja, who has five daughters. “My husband was killed by the Army in early Nineties and since then I have been virtually begging to feed my family. My two elder daughters are almost 30 but I’m not able to marry them,” Naseema said.&lt;br /&gt; Another widow, Gul Jane, said, “I’ve two daughters who are of marriageable age. But I don’t have resources to get them married.”&lt;br /&gt; Muhammad Gulzar Mir, a retired employee of the area, said, “On an average Rs 10,000 are being spent here on a marriage. It is a downtrodden village, and to arrange Rs 10,000 is a big deal. I appeal to philanthropists to come forward for helping these girls.”&lt;br /&gt; “If somebody wants to donate, he should either come here and donate the money personally or give it to some credible organization,” he added.&lt;br /&gt; Besides orphaned girls, Gulzar said there are some 50 young widows. “Though hundreds of women lost their husbands, 50 of them are as young as 20. They too need attention,” he said.&lt;br /&gt; Only 31 families of the 300 slain men were paid monetary relief by the government. Because of its hilly terrains the village has almost no agriculture land and only maize is being cultivated which too depends on rain.&lt;br /&gt; Valley’s leading sociologist and Head of Sociology and Social Work Department Kashmir University, Professor Bashir Ahmad Dabla warned that it will have disastrous effects if social initiative isn’t taken immediately. “There is a need for social intervention to overcome the problem, and elders of the area should intervene and try to find a solution of the problem. Patriarchal authority finishes in the families where head of the family dies, and same has happened in Dardpora,” he said.&lt;br /&gt; Prof Dabla said that outside intervention in the area could prove counterproductive. “The village has its own customs and traditions of marriage, any interference could prove counterproductive. Existing realties are that organizations wishing to help should take local elders into confidence to marry these girls according to their own customs.”&lt;br /&gt; He, however, advised that instead of giving money to the victims, they should be provided services. “If money would be directly provided to them, they won’t utilize it in proper direction. Instead they should be provided things required for marriage according to their custom,” Prof Dabla added.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4526559805344918472-4042921007643054298?l=kashmirtalks.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/feeds/4042921007643054298/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4526559805344918472&amp;postID=4042921007643054298' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/4042921007643054298'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4526559805344918472/posts/default/4042921007643054298'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kashmirtalks.blogspot.com/2007/11/dardporas-orphan-girls-dont-get-grooms.html' title='Dardpora’s orphan girls don’t get grooms'/><author><name>kashmirtalks</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00327881991151165680</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry></feed>
